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Bills Training Camp: Day 4 - 7/28


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6 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

I have gone to St. John Fishers training camp for the last 15 or so years. There absolutely a smooth precise feeling about this one. I just dont see a lot of ineffective/inefficient stuff going on. In terms of this year vs last year...there seems to be much more individualized teaching going on. The coaches "seem" to be having fun while looking confident. However, it could just be the team has more competent/experienced players and the staff has had another year of continuity.

 

But actually that's the thing...at a bunch of key positions, the staff has NOT had another year of continuity.

McDermott and Leslie Frazier, I give you that.

Some of the coaches who are new:

ST coach - Heath Farwell

QB coach - Ken Dorsey

WR coach - Chad Hall

OL coach - Bobby Johnson
Safeties coach - Bobby Babich

I'm fairly sure I'm missing a few, but especially on offense, that's a lot of new guys.

And with new guys, perhaps came some new ideas about how to focus practices?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Foster did not look good at all today.  Lots of drops and his body language appeared like he was getting down on himself.  Hopefully he can step it up.

This is what terrifies me about him.  Some people just anointed after last year.  Dude has a ton of ability but there’s a reason he was cut here, not claimed, and didn’t really play at Bama.  I worry that in a big spot, he will have a huge drop.  And I bet he does because drops get in your head as a receiver.  But on physical skills, he’s probably our most talented receiver.  Takes a lot more than that though.

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25 minutes ago, K-9 said:

They are off tomorrow, but practice on Tuesday. It’s not open to the public; media only.

That’s why some of the bloggers are pissed that the Bills won’t credential them. As far as I know, other teams don’t credential bloggers either. 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That’s why some of the bloggers are pissed that the Bills won’t credential them. As far as I know, other teams don’t credential bloggers either. 

I’m a bit ambivalent on the matter. 

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TY NSEKHE was picked by many here to start at one of the tackle spots yet he has not seen any time with the 1s. How does the coaching staff determine opening camp starters? Will he get a chance to earn a starting spot? I would think he signed here for that opportunity. 

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2 minutes ago, K-No said:

TY NSEKHE was picked by many here to start at one of the tackle spots yet he has not seen any time with the 1s. How does the coaching staff determine opening camp starters? Will he get a chance to earn a starting spot? I would think he signed here for that opportunity. 

I think he has, actually. He rotates with Ford, even though Ford starts out there. 

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7 minutes ago, K-No said:

TY NSEKHE was picked by many here to start at one of the tackle spots yet he has not seen any time with the 1s. How does the coaching staff determine opening camp starters? Will he get a chance to earn a starting spot? I would think he signed here for that opportunity. 

I think the Bills believe they know what they have in Nsekhe, as he has a lot of experience. They might want to get a good look at what Ford can do, especially early on. While Nsekhe has obvious value as a backup/ swing player , I wouldn’t close the book on him emerging as one of the starting 5 OL at all. 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

So

 

 

Oliver is a bust?

 

 

:devil:

 

One of the things I am curious to know: Over four days of practice, everyone online and at the camp have been non-stop talking about the offense.  Look at all of Astro's notes....so focused on offense (or offense centric).  Usually at this time of the year, the defense is well ahead of offense.  However, not a peep about the defense.  

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2 minutes ago, ganesh said:

 

One of the things I am curious to know: Over four days of practice, everyone online and at the camp have been non-stop talking about the offense.  Look at all of Astro's notes....so focused on offense (or offense centric).  Usually at this time of the year, the defense is well ahead of offense.  However, not a peep about the defense.  

So many new faces on offense, it makes sense that the coaches would want to get them some confidence early on. I expect the D to give them different looks and make it more competitive in the new few practices.

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1 minute ago, CommonCents said:

So many new faces on offense, it makes sense that the coaches would want to get them some confidence early on. I expect the D to give them different looks and make it more competitive in the new few practices.

Agreed. I was not talking about the coaches though.  More on how the media, online and camp-dwellers are so focused on the offense.  I assume fans are equally curious to see the changes in offense, whereas the defense is returning 10 of the 11 starters from last year.  I do want to know where is the run defense on this team.  If they don;t stop the run, we will be in trouble like last year.

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Nyske is plan B at OT.  Dawkins and Ford are plan A. Dawkins and Ford could bookend for years.  Nyske can slide in at either spot no problem.  Imo he is a better pass blocker than both.  Dawkins and Ford have the run blocking style they want.  

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1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

Nyske is plan B at OT.  Dawkins and Ford are plan A. Dawkins and Ford could bookend for years.  Nyske can slide in at either spot no problem.  Imo he is a better pass blocker than both.  Dawkins and Ford have the run blocking style they want.  

 

This -and the fact he signed a multi year contract with a huge payday. He’s valuable and if he is just our swing tackle, he could play til he’s 40. We made him very ha$$y to be here.

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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This is what terrifies me about him.  Some people just anointed after last year.  Dude has a ton of ability but there’s a reason he was cut here, not claimed, and didn’t really play at Bama.  I worry that in a big spot, he will have a huge drop.  And I bet he does because drops get in your head as a receiver.  But on physical skills, he’s probably our most talented receiver.  Takes a lot more than that though.

 

Like the people who insist that he is already better than Robby Anderson? 

2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

I think the Bills believe they know what they have in Nsekhe, as he has a lot of experience. They might want to get a good look at what Ford can do, especially early on. While Nsekhe has obvious value as a backup/ swing player , I wouldn’t close the book on him emerging as one of the starting 5 OL at all. 

 

It is the same way it has been all along. He was brought here as insurance. Insurance against them not getting a tackle in the draft and insurance against against that tackle not being ready to start week 1. If Cody looks good in practice Nsekhe is their swing backup. Which was, I believe, always their ideal outcome. 

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Taken from Astro's notes... notice how many times Foster's name show up... there's a reason for that:

 

Here are combinations used by Daboll on the ensuing plays with Josh. It shows the imagination and attention to detail, variety, and diagnostic work put in by the coaches.

 

->Brown, Beasley, Cam Phillips
->Foster, Zay, Beasley
->Brown, Zay, Beasley with Singletary
->Foster, Zay, Brown
->Foster, Beasley, McKenzie with Singletary 
->Foster, Gore, DiMarco, Zay
->Foster, Zay, McKenzie 

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