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11 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

These guys are responsible to know what they are ingesting. Even if what he says is true that doesn’t make him any less guilty. It is drummed into their heads to know what they are putting into their body.

...damn right BOE......and I have to believe if something is not on the "no no list", there is a type of advisory board available for ruling.....

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1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

I find the statement "I did all of this well before a failed test was even confirmed" to be a major red flag.  I don't think his appeal goes well.

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6 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said:

I find the statement "I did all of this well before a failed test was even confirmed" to be a major red flag.  I don't think his appeal goes well.

Yeah. He should have just checked the drugs first if that's the case. Doesn't matter how proactive he is after failing to check the drugs before taking them and then getting tested. He screwed up and will be suspended for it.

 

If he's lucky, though, his story will cause fans and media to not attack him. Saving face is all he has left in this situation.

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

If it is for fertility it definitely is a "performance enhancer" but not in the NFL sense probably.

If your suspension lasts 4 games or longer, consult your physician. 

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2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...says he has a legitimate appeal....don't they all?....when Judge Goodell puts on the black robe.......screwed............

Judge Judy would smack him down faster and add a game

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Nice sob story, but rules are pretty well laid out. You have to be pretty dumb to not realize what fertility drugs are for a dude.  The guy most likely took testosterone. I’m sure every dude in the NFL would like some more testosterone in their body. If all u have to do is go to a fertility doctor and it is good, every player will be doing it 

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I know, right?  The league has a list of banned substances, how hard can it be to print it out and take it to the Drs office?

 

Except that...performance enhancing drugs are banned year round for a reason.  The off-season and certainly April are when players are trying to gain strength.   "Try to gain strength in the off-season, try to maintain strength through the season"  Not saying Tate's story isn't true or that he shouldn't be granted an appeal, but it's Bullcrackle that taking a drug in April "couldn't possibly have been used as a performance enhancer'.

 

 

Did he win his appeal?

I don’t think he won

 

interesting article about it 

 

Why the NFL Had to Act Harshly in the Robert Mathis Case

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2068505-why-the-nfl-had-to-act-harshly-in-the-robert-mathis-case.amp.html

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The bottom line here is that if you are an NFL player you don't put ANYTHING in your body unless you are SURE that it is not on the banned list. My only question on this is whether the NFL would have/could have granted him "permission" if he had petitioned them IN ADVANCE for permission - assuming this whole "Fertility Treatment" is actually even legit. This on top of the Giants other WR injuries puts them at an even greater disadvantage to the Bills in Week #2. Sterling Shepard has a broken thumb and Corey Coleman out with a torn ACL. It would be a great start to the NFL season if the Bills beat both NJ teams and go 2-0 out of the starting gate.

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Bottom line: he's not playing against the Bills. Even if the suspension gets knocked down, it wouldn't be lower than two games.

 

Whatever happened, the day the NFL erases a banned substance suspension is the day the floodgates open. Tate will get at least two.

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42 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said:

Bottom line: he's not playing against the Bills. Even if the suspension gets knocked down, it wouldn't be lower than two games.

 

Whatever happened, the day the NFL erases a banned substance suspension is the day the floodgates open. Tate will get at least two.

 

Not true.

 

His appeal ruling could be two months from now.

 

 

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Just now, Ittakestime said:

Nice sob story, but rules are pretty well laid out. You have to be pretty dumb to not realize what fertility drugs are for a dude.  The guy most likely took testosterone. I’m sure every dude in the NFL would like some more testosterone in their body. If all u have to do is go to a fertility doctor and it is good, every player will be doing it 

 

Agreed, if it was testostorone he would surely have to have known it was a banned substance. 

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4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I can't remember the last time a player won an appeal on a drug suspension. Assuming this sticks our defense will have an easy time in week 2. Just stop Barkley.

LOL... The run defense is a serious concern.  They were gashed multiple times last year.  Oliver is a rookie. A lot will depend on Edmunds getting significanty better.  Needs to diagnose runs better and take better angles to the RB.  He is young so I am optimistic he can make a big leap.  He is still younger than most rookies.  

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Travis Henry, Antonio Cromartie, and Shawn Kemp just called Tate and said, "bro, you shoulda called me."

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27 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

LOL... The run defense is a serious concern.  They were gashed multiple times last year.  Oliver is a rookie. A lot will depend on Edmunds getting significanty better.  Needs to diagnose runs better and take better angles to the RB.  He is young so I am optimistic he can make a big leap.  He is still younger than most rookies.  

 

No question Edmunds needs to improve and I expect he will. But that has nothing to do with the Giants offense which should be the easiest defensive matchup of the season. Literally we can just sell out to stop the run.

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18 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

No question Edmunds needs to improve and I expect he will. But that has nothing to do with the Giants offense which should be the easiest defensive matchup of the season. Literally we can just sell out to stop the run.

Evan Engram is a legit threat. In that offense with no receiving options he's going to put up Kittle numbers this year.

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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think he won

 

interesting article about it 

 

Why the NFL Had to Act Harshly in the Robert Mathis Case

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2068505-why-the-nfl-had-to-act-harshly-in-the-robert-mathis-case.amp.html

 

Oh, my ears and whiskers.
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Robert Mathis (4 game suspension): " Like many families, my wife and I faced fertility challenges, and I sought medical assistance. I specifically asked the doctor if the medication he prescribed for me would present a problem for NFL drug testing, and unfortunately, he incorrectly told me that it would not. I made the mistake of not calling the NFL or NFLPA to double check before I took the medication at the end of last season."

 

Edison Volquez (pitcher suspended 50 games):
Prior to the conclusion of last season, my wife and I sought medical advice in Cincinnati with the hope of starting a family… As part of my consultation with the physician, I received certain prescribed medications to treat my condition. As a follow up to our original consultation, my wife and I visited another physician in our home city in the Dominican Republic this past off-season. This physician also gave me certain prescribed medications as part of my treatment. Unfortunately, I now know that the medication the physician in the Dominican gave me is one that is often used to treat my condition, but is also a banned substance under Major League Baseball's drug policy. As a result, I tested positive when I reported to Spring Training.

Is there some freakin' "writing guide to emotional appealing excuses for taking banned substances" these guys are all sampling from?

 

Tate was in the league when Mathis was suspended - a rookie, in fact.  You would think the lightbulb might have flickered, if it's true.  In any case, as Mathis statement points out, a definitive read on the meds is just a phone call away.

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, my ears and whiskers.
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Robert Mathis (4 game suspension): " Like many families, my wife and I faced fertility challenges, and I sought medical assistance. I specifically asked the doctor if the medication he prescribed for me would present a problem for NFL drug testing, and unfortunately, he incorrectly told me that it would not. I made the mistake of not calling the NFL or NFLPA to double check before I took the medication at the end of last season."

 

Edison Volquez (pitcher suspended 50 games):
Prior to the conclusion of last season, my wife and I sought medical advice in Cincinnati with the hope of starting a family… As part of my consultation with the physician, I received certain prescribed medications to treat my condition. As a follow up to our original consultation, my wife and I visited another physician in our home city in the Dominican Republic this past off-season. This physician also gave me certain prescribed medications as part of my treatment. Unfortunately, I now know that the medication the physician in the Dominican gave me is one that is often used to treat my condition, but is also a banned substance under Major League Baseball's drug policy. As a result, I tested positive when I reported to Spring Training.

Is there some freakin' "writing guide to emotion excuses for taking banned substances" these guys are all sampling from?

 

Tate was in the league when Mathis was suspended - a rookie, in fact.  You would think the lightbulb might have flickered, if it's true.  In any case, as Mathis statement points out, a definitive read on the meds is just a phone call away.

I have no idea why these guys would not check and double check and triple check with the nfl on every single thing they take 

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6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have no idea why these guys would not check and double check and triple check with the nfl on every single thing they take 

It’s simple. They’re determined to cheat.

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35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, my ears and whiskers.
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Robert Mathis (4 game suspension): " Like many families, my wife and I faced fertility challenges, and I sought medical assistance. I specifically asked the doctor if the medication he prescribed for me would present a problem for NFL drug testing, and unfortunately, he incorrectly told me that it would not. I made the mistake of not calling the NFL or NFLPA to double check before I took the medication at the end of last season."

 

Edison Volquez (pitcher suspended 50 games):
Prior to the conclusion of last season, my wife and I sought medical advice in Cincinnati with the hope of starting a family… As part of my consultation with the physician, I received certain prescribed medications to treat my condition. As a follow up to our original consultation, my wife and I visited another physician in our home city in the Dominican Republic this past off-season. This physician also gave me certain prescribed medications as part of my treatment. Unfortunately, I now know that the medication the physician in the Dominican gave me is one that is often used to treat my condition, but is also a banned substance under Major League Baseball's drug policy. As a result, I tested positive when I reported to Spring Training.

Is there some freakin' "writing guide to emotional appealing excuses for taking banned substances" these guys are all sampling from?

 

Tate was in the league when Mathis was suspended - a rookie, in fact.  You would think the lightbulb might have flickered, if it's true.  In any case, as Mathis statement points out, a definitive read on the meds is just a phone call away.

Odds are they didn't write it.

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9 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

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The injuries aren't funny but that last one kills me.

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