Buffalo716 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) As your weakest link... I have learned that this is very true in the game of football. IT IS A TEAM GAME. 1-53... More often than not #53 gets thrust into action and he needs to be able to play and not be a liability For years and years and years our weakest link has always been bad, usually really bad Going through our roster and how it might be compiled I am getting even more excited for the season. Our weakest link might actually be a pretty dang good player BILLIEVE Edited July 26, 2019 by Buffalo716 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Didn't Brian Hoyer just get a Superbowl ring? Same goes for Rob Johnson and David Carr. I don't buy your premise. Edited July 26, 2019 by Doc Brown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) YAWN have another one. Seriously. Edited July 26, 2019 by JoPar_v2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Didn't Brian Hoyer just get a Superbowl ring? Same goes for Rob Johnson and David Carr. I don't buy your premise. Brian hoyer is probably better than 80-90% of the QBs we have trotted out post Kelly. Orton and Fitz and TT better. 1 year of bledsoe and flutie. Then he is better than every other QB starter or backup pretty much we've had. He definitely coulda been useful for some games on some teams Outside of QB , who stay relatively healthy, backups play Remember Justin Rodgers Playing outside CB? Giving up over 200 yards personally? If Justin Rodgers was forced outside on this team we would be torched because he was a liability.. We aren't in a position to have a contributor that bad 52 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: YAWN have another one. Seriously. Im not drinking Edited July 26, 2019 by Buffalo716 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: As your weakest link... I have learned that this is very true in the game of football. IT IS A TEAM GAME. 1-53... More often than not #53 gets thrust into action and he needs to be able to play and not be a liability For years and years and years our weakest link has always been bad, usually really bad Going through our roster and how it might be compiled I am getting even more excited for the season. Our weakest link might actually be a pretty dang good player BILLIEVE Not really true. But the reality in many years past we used to have starters that would not even play in the CFL. Now well we don’t Edited July 26, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I agree with the OP if you define the weakest link as the weakest player on the field. The weakest player on defence gets targeted more than any other player and likely has a greater effect on the game than the strongest defender who is avoided. The weakest member of the O-Line will be targeted in the pass rush. Weak receivers can be shut down in single coverage by average defenders leaving double coverage for the top receiving threats. When comparing the top-heavy Whaley rosters with a deep and balanced roster (like I think we are building here), I believe the deep and balanced rosters are more successful. Edited July 26, 2019 by Forward Progress 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I find it interesting that some people here disagree...well maybe not. From my perspective I see a team that has not only improved it’s starting positions but has also added quality depth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Coaching needs that “step on their throat” mentality, haven’t seen it yet. Hope to see it this year. Less talk, more rawk! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I don't get all the hate for this post. There are multiple position groups that are going to see guys that might be the #2 on another team get cut. WR, CB, and RB all come to mind. It's a good problem to have, trying to decide which ones to keep when they're all capable of producing. There are guys that started on this (#2 overall) defense last year that may get cut because we've brought more talent in. Definitely the first time in a long time I can remember having this kind of depth of quality talent. Not like having 3-4 great players and a bunch of backups in starting roles. Just think back to last year. We were trotting out Vlad Ducasse as a STARTER, and he started yesterday with the third string OL. The point that I think the OP is trying to make is this. If our worst player is a guy we don't want to get rid of because he's actually a dang good player that can start on another team, that's a pretty good problem to have. Lay off, all you Negative Nancy's 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I honestly believe that a lot of the ‘weakness’ can be attributed to coaching decisions and previous coaching preparations for the games. As for weak player links, a good deal of Buffalo’s failures can also be related to OP’s contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Weakness is a vague term. Last year, I would say our weakest player was probably Kelvin Benjamin with his attitude. Its not always playing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I haven't be this up for a season in a very long time. This is the most talented roster top to bottom the Bills have had since the Bledsoe era at least, probably better. I can't wait for the season. The time to bet on the Bills is now. Edited July 26, 2019 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Honestly, in today’s NFL with the hard salary cap it doesn’t really work that way. It’s about fielding as many difference makers as possible (including a QB) to go along with solid starters and good role players. The bottom of the roster means little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I mean it’s true at certain positions I guess like corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, CLTbills said: I don't get all the hate for this post. There are multiple position groups that are going to see guys that might be the #2 on another team get cut. WR, CB, and RB all come to mind. It's a good problem to have, trying to decide which ones to keep when they're all capable of producing. There are guys that started on this (#2 overall) defense last year that may get cut because we've brought more talent in. Definitely the first time in a long time I can remember having this kind of depth of quality talent. Not like having 3-4 great players and a bunch of backups in starting roles. Just think back to last year. We were trotting out Vlad Ducasse as a STARTER, and he started yesterday with the third string OL. The point that I think the OP is trying to make is this. If our worst player is a guy we don't want to get rid of because he's actually a dang good player that can start on another team, that's a pretty good problem to have. Lay off, all you Negative Nancy's Its the Bills, as fans we are conditioned to be negative.......sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ProcessAccepted Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just for the record training camp has started. We're no longer in the long no football drought months where we need post like this to fill time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, CLTbills said: I don't get all the hate for this post. There are multiple position groups that are going to see guys that might be the #2 on another team get cut. WR, CB, and RB all come to mind. It's a good problem to have, trying to decide which ones to keep when they're all capable of producing. There are guys that started on this (#2 overall) defense last year that may get cut because we've brought more talent in. Definitely the first time in a long time I can remember having this kind of depth of quality talent. Not like having 3-4 great players and a bunch of backups in starting roles. Just think back to last year. We were trotting out Vlad Ducasse as a STARTER, and he started yesterday with the third string OL. The point that I think the OP is trying to make is this. If our worst player is a guy we don't want to get rid of because he's actually a dang good player that can start on another team, that's a pretty good problem to have. Lay off, all you Negative Nancy's Great post, good insight. Just think, all of the quality depth you referenced has been accumulated in the course of only one short offseason—by taking our poison pill salary cap head on in one year as opposed to punting the football for the sake of middling space over longer period of time, the needed flexibility to make this happen was won. Beane should be up for exec of the year if these pieces all come together in such a short turnaround! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I could have been the 53rd man on the Pats roster for the last 20 years and they would still have 6 titles. Edited July 26, 2019 by Mark80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Honestly, in today’s NFL with the hard salary cap it doesn’t really work that way. It’s about fielding as many difference makers as possible (including a QB) to go along with solid starters and good role players. The bottom of the roster means little. Every team gets hit with injuries and that's a fact We have trotted out John DiGorgio at MLB Justin Rodgers at outside corner, Jeff tuel and Thad Lewis at QB, Kelvin Benjamin WAS a liability last year Your weakest players CAN HURT YOU it far from 1-30 5 hours ago, CLTbills said: I don't get all the hate for this post. There are multiple position groups that are going to see guys that might be the #2 on another team get cut. WR, CB, and RB all come to mind. It's a good problem to have, trying to decide which ones to keep when they're all capable of producing. There are guys that started on this (#2 overall) defense last year that may get cut because we've brought more talent in. Definitely the first time in a long time I can remember having this kind of depth of quality talent. Not like having 3-4 great players and a bunch of backups in starting roles. Just think back to last year. We were trotting out Vlad Ducasse as a STARTER, and he started yesterday with the third string OL. The point that I think the OP is trying to make is this. If our worst player is a guy we don't want to get rid of because he's actually a dang good player that can start on another team, that's a pretty good problem to have. Lay off, all you Negative Nancy's Half the board flames because they have probably never played the sport My idea may be worded differently but as a coach and scout it makes perfect sense. We have trotted out crap at starter and backup in the past. Out bad backups and starters have hurt us Our worst backup might be better than some of our starters in years past. That's a solid thing called depth Let Ryan Groy be out center for all 16 games and watch Allen die I know Beane lives by the manta because he has CONSTANTLY shuffled the practice squad and bottom of roster. He's ALWAYS improving the weak links Edited July 26, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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