aristocrat Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: The Jets are not better on paper, on the field, in your imagination, etc... I dont care how you frame it, the Jets roster is not better than the Bills. Thread over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Makes no sense... on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB. Still I don’t see how Adam Gase is suddenly going to go from a bum in Miami to a great coach in NYJ. But we’ll see They have no O-Line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Crowder<Beasley By a LONG SHOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Makes no sense... on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB. Still I don’t see how Adam Gase is suddenly going to go from a bum in Miami to a great coach in NYJ. But we’ll see I think there is some legit discussion on whether the jets have better skill position players....... One thing that is NOT open for discussion? The bills are better everywhere else..... OL Defense ST - lets us not forget we poached their awesome return guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: After one year here’s what I think: Darnold > Allen Bell > McCoy Anderson > Foster Enunwa = Brown Crowder > Beasley Oh boy... Darnold = Allen: Both unproved QB's who showed plenty of Good and plenty of bad. Those pounding the table that Darnold is the messiah are buying the big apple hype. Both of these guys could go either way and given the fact that Darnold was worse than he was supposed to be his rookie year, and Allen was much better, the argument could be made that Allen is a better bet this year. Bell >? McCoy: I'll give you a maybe on this one. The reality is that both of these guys have a lot to prove. For several years they were top 5 talents- last year has left much of that to question. I think Bell will disappoint, but I'm not convinced that Shady isn't washed up. Ty Montgomery << Frank Gore: Duh Bilal Powel = Devin Singletary: I'll take the push, but I think Singletary is clearly a better option - time will tell. Elijah McGuire < TJ Yeldon Anderson < Brown: Anderson has him on potential, but right now Brown is a better player. Enunwa < Foster: This is too small a sample to say difinitively, and it's apples to oranges, but I think most teams would take Bobby over Quincy. Crowder < Beasley: Come on. Herndon > Bills Field: This one I'll give them outright Jets Oline < Bills Oline: This one is based on the "on paper" but it's a pretty big gap between the two on paper. Jets D <<< Bills D : Obvious And for what it's worth, we took their best Special Teamer. Oh, and Most importantly: Gase <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (Clown *****-show) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< McD. Edited July 22, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 its the bills and well prove it week 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, WMDman said: its the bills and well prove it week 1 Jets fans think they have week one locked down and we think we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Jets fans think they have week one locked down and we think we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: After one year here’s what I think: Darnold > Allen Bell > McCoy Anderson > Foster Enunwa = Brown Crowder > Beasley After 518 post here is what I think... Phil is not a Thrill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: After 518 post here is what I think... Phil is not a Thrill. Apparently you have to do some math here.....Phil tries to thrill under several names. Same result, I suspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: After one year here’s what I think: Darnold > Allen Bell > McCoy Anderson > Foster Enunwa = Brown Crowder > Beasley Darnold proved more efficient as a passer, but Allen has more potential to grow. Darnold was pretty much a finished product coming into the league. I'm not gonna say Allen will grow enough, but the ceiling is much higher. I'd have to rate them about equal right now. Not quite sure why you'd rattle off skill position players as the defining answer to the question, but Beasley is better than Crowder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: What about D-line, secondary and linebackers? Jets better? Nope. And which team is a bigger clown show right now? The team with it's top pick holding out? I was only comparing skill players 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Crowder<Beasley Ok so you might be right about this. I didn’t realize Beasley caught as many passes as he did last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I was only comparing skill players Ok so you might be right about this. I didn’t realize Beasley caught as many passes as he did last year Beasely WAAAAY under rated.....I just need to see that Josh Allen will use him because that means he needs to improve his short game....... if Josh does that? We got a pro bowler on our hands because we KNOW that Josh can put it deep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Darnold proved more efficient as a passer, but Allen has more potential to grow. Darnold was pretty much a finished product coming into the league. I'm not gonna say Allen will grow enough, but the ceiling is much higher. I'd have to rate them about equal right now. Not quite sure why you'd rattle off skill position players as the defining answer to the question, but Beasley is better than Crowder. Which is why I said after 1 season I give Darnold the edge over Allen but I can agree that Josh has more upside. Also so as I stated above, I think I was wrong about Crowder, and yes I give the nod to Beasley. But the rest I stand by. I think it’s clear that Bell is better than Shady. Anderson is better than Foster...way better than Zay Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Which is why I said after 1 season I give Darnold the edge over Allen but I can agree that Josh has more upside. Also so as I stated above, I think I was wrong about Crowder, and yes I give the nod to Beasley. But the rest I stand by. I think it’s clear that Bell is better than Shady. Anderson is better than Foster...way better than Zay Jones. I'm not even taking a side. I think the Jets have some advantages and the Bills have some advantages. Just noting that skill position players(outside of QB) are not a defining metric when comparing two teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, WMDman said: its the bills and well prove it week 1 ...and then again the second time we play them here. We need Spags opinion on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That home loss week 14 was a strange game. The Bills looked to be the better team for most of it. Darnold hit a 37 yard pass with less than 2 minutes to play, one of two impressive plays all game and then Josh threw his second bad pick of the game. The Jets ST really dominated on KR and the Bills had a FG miss and one blocked. What that means for 2019 probably amounts to very little. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Jets will probably win more games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Does it matter? The Patriots and the GOAT will be undefeated and win another championship! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: LOL. Shirley you jest? BILLS In this case you is Cosell Phil is serious, and don't call him Shirley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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