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Who Will Be Better in 2019 - The Bills or The Jets

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I was listening to One Bills Live that had an interview with Greg Cosell Of NFL Films.  He starts by evaluating Josh Allen’s film and Greg makes it sound like he’s a long way from being a good QB.

 

But the more interesting question came when Good Ol’ John Murphy asked Greg point blank - Who is better, The Jets or the Bills?  Ironically Greg danced around the question and wouldn’t answer it.  He said it hard to say and think the Jets could have the better offense and the Bills could have the better defense.  He thinks that the Bills have the edge in coaching considering but that Gase is a highly respect offensive mind.  He questions the Bills OL considering they could have 4 new starters.  

 

But I’ll throw this question out - who do you think will be better:  The Bills or The Jets?

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/audio/obl-7-19-bleacher-report-s-tyler-dunne-co-hosts-bills-2019-season-preview-with-g

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LOL.  

 

Shirley you jest? 

 

BILLS

In this case you is Cosell

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8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

LOL.  

 

Shirley you jest? 

 

BILLS

In this case you is Cosell

 

Makes no sense...

 

on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB.

 

Still I don’t see how Adam Gase is suddenly going to go from a bum in Miami to a great coach in NYJ.  But we’ll see

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12 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB.

Ya? Disagree there.

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

Ya? Disagree there.

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

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1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

 

No.

Yes, but our backfield is deeper.

Categorically no.

Possibly.

Lol no

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Just now, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

 

What about D-line, secondary and linebackers? Jets better? Nope.

And which team is a bigger clown show right now? The team with it's top pick holding out? 

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21 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 He starts by evaluating Josh Allen’s film and Greg makes it sound like he’s a long way from being a good QB.

Allen was a good QB, the moment he stepped into the game at Baltimore.  He has a ways to go before being considered a Great QB.

21 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

But the more interesting question came when Good Ol’ John Murphy asked Greg point blank - Who is better, The Jets or the Bills?  Ironically Greg danced around the question and wouldn’t answer it.

Haha, no balls.

 

He said it hard to say and think the Jets could have the better offense and the Bills could have the better defense.  He thinks that the Bills have the edge in coaching 

A lot of words to say nothing.

 

Gase is a highly respect offensive mind.  

Which is why the Dolphins consistently under performed and he got the boot in Miami. !?!

 

He questions the Bills OL considering they could have 4 new starters.  

We all questioned the Bills OL with the 4 starters we had for last year. 

 

But I’ll throw this question out - who do you think will be better:  The Bills or The Jets?

Bills.

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/audio/obl-7-19-bleacher-report-s-tyler-dunne-co-hosts-bills-2019-season-preview-with-g

 

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I really don't know what people saw in Darnold last year that makes them think he's so far ahead of Allen.

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2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

 

Now for my takes 

 

Darnold = Allen at best. Allen brings more athleticism and well much higher ceiling 

 

Bell slightly better than McCoy (sorry you not anyone know what Bell will look like after getting paid and sitting out of football a year)

 

Anderson < Foster and Zay and Brown 

Enunwa = Zay and or Brown (how is his Neck doing?)

 

Crowder < Beasley 

1 minute ago, Big C said:

I really don't know what people saw in Darnold last year that makes them think he's so far ahead of Allen.

 

He plays in a much bigger market. Other than that Josh really had better all around play than Darnold 

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the Jets are a dumpster. the only question is whether/when it starts on fire.

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10 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

I can get the points and debate for the top 4 but nobody who watches or follows football would ever agree crowder is better than Beasley. That’s gotta be a joke right 

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Just now, Rc2catch said:

I can get the points and debate for the top 4 but nobody who watches or follows football would ever agree crowder is better than Beasley. That’s gotta be a joke right 

 

Plus I believe the Bills ol is better as well.

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Plus I believe the Bills ol is better as well.

Yeah that part confused me the Bills Line was terrible last year so they made major changes. From what I remember the Jets line was also bad last year and they didn't change a whole lot so how are they in a better position there.

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In the end...the Bills. The Bills have a better plan than the Jets.

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Plus I believe the Bills ol is better as well.

Without playing a down there’s zero question the bills line is better. That’s probably going to be the difference maker for both teams records. Going to be hard for Darnold to throw or Bell to run behind their line. Defenses are pretty evenly matched and stacked for both teams though. 

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The Jets are not better on paper, on the field, in your imagination, etc... I dont care how you frame it, the Jets roster is not better than the Bills.

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the Bills- duh!

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18 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

Crowder<Beasley

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2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

The Jets are not better on paper, on the field, in your imagination, etc... I dont care how you frame it, the Jets roster is not better than the Bills.

 

Thread over 

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36 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Makes no sense...

 

on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB.

 

Still I don’t see how Adam Gase is suddenly going to go from a bum in Miami to a great coach in NYJ.  But we’ll see

They have no O-Line...

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Crowder<Beasley

 

By a LONG SHOT. 

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39 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Makes no sense...

 

on paper the Jets have better skill players and you can make an argument that they have the better QB.

 

Still I don’t see how Adam Gase is suddenly going to go from a bum in Miami to a great coach in NYJ.  But we’ll see

I think there is some legit discussion on whether the jets have better skill position players.......

 

One thing that is NOT open for discussion?   The bills are better everywhere else.....

 

OL

Defense

ST - lets us not forget we poached their awesome return guy

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36 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

After one year here’s what I think: 

 

Darnold > Allen

Bell > McCoy

Anderson > Foster

Enunwa = Brown

Crowder > Beasley

 

 

Oh boy... 

 

Darnold = Allen: Both unproved QB's who showed plenty of Good and plenty of bad. Those pounding the table that Darnold is the messiah are buying the big apple hype. Both of these guys could go either way and given the fact that Darnold was worse than he was supposed to be his rookie year, and Allen was much better, the argument could be made that Allen is a better bet this year. 

 

Bell >? McCoy: I'll give you a maybe on this one. The reality is that both of these guys have a lot to prove. For several years they were top 5 talents- last year has left much of that to question. I think Bell will disappoint, but I'm not convinced that Shady isn't washed up. 

Ty Montgomery << Frank Gore: Duh

Bilal Powel = Devin Singletary: I'll take the push, but I think Singletary is clearly a better option - time will tell.

Elijah McGuire < TJ Yeldon

 

Anderson < Brown: Anderson has him on potential, but right now Brown is a better player. 

Enunwa < Foster: This is too small a sample to say difinitively, and it's apples to oranges, but I think most teams would take Bobby over Quincy. 

Crowder < Beasley: Come on. 

 

Herndon > Bills Field: This one I'll give them outright 

 

Jets Oline < Bills Oline: This one is based on the "on paper" but it's a pretty big gap between the two on paper. 

 

Jets D <<< Bills D Obvious

 

And for what it's worth, we took their best Special Teamer. 

 

 

Oh, and Most importantly: 

 

Gase <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (Clown *****-show) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< McD. 

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