Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: ya think? andy isn't gonna do that. best bet is have the senecas take the job and put a sports betting casino in it....with a hotel next door. don't be surprised... no offense but i give more credence to those who actually live in the area. A sports book and casino to fill an arena?? So close to niagara? No chance. Plus no one is going to build another hotel tower in Buffalo. occupancy rates can’t support that Edited July 21, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Downtown near the waterfront is a rat’s nest. Just say no to rat’s nests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: I did however sit in stop and go traffic for an hour on I90, so the point still stands. Traffic is always going to be an issue leaving a venue with 70 or 50 thousand people there. No way around it. There are alternates that could help significantly. There used to be deal with train, Amtrak I believe, with partial season ticket packages allowing you to take train to station and they had shuttle buses to game. Orchard Park / Eric County/ New York could install express bus lanes to and primarily from stadium to lots which would allow large amounts of people to leave area reducing clogging. 55 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I guess the OP is going to be disappointed then. When the new stadium is built it’s gonna be downtown. Just imagine, a city with tens of thousands of people on the streets, a vibrant city, a city with the name BUFFALO attached to it. Wouldn’t that be a great day for BUFFALO New York? I sure hope all you BUFFALO BILLS fans think that would be a very good thing to have happen. Go Bills!!! 10 days a year is not worth cost. If the Pegulas/NFL/Corporate sponsors were picking up the costs of the stadium I could see the state picking up infrastructure costs but it is a lot easier of Albany politicians to pick up cost for public work projects in NYC area than elsewhere although they do not mind taxing everyone rather than creating special taxing district. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: ya think? andy isn't gonna do that. best bet is have the senecas take the job and put a sports betting casino in it....with a hotel next door. don't be surprised... no offense but i give more credence to those who actually live in the area. So why do you resist the Billionaires who are already well on the way to doing what you want the Senecas to do? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Limeaid said: There are alternates that could help significantly. There used to be deal with train, Amtrak I believe, with partial season ticket packages allowing you to take train to station and they had shuttle buses to game. Orchard Park / Eric County/ New York could install express bus lanes to and primarily from stadium to lots which would allow large amounts of people to leave area reducing clogging. 10 days a year is not worth cost. If the Pegulas/NFL/Corporate sponsors were picking up the costs of the stadium I could see the state picking up infrastructure costs but it is a lot easier of Albany politicians to pick up cost for public work projects in NYC area than elsewhere although they do not mind taxing everyone rather than creating special taxing district. Change is the only constant in our lives, let your/our tax money be spent on stuff that makes us happy, hell we’re gonna be dead in not so many years. The new stadium is not the end all of course, but it sure won’t hurt. It’s always a good sign to see construction happening in a city. It does beat no construction happening. Communities die when they stop trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: I guess the OP is going to be disappointed then. When the new stadium is built it’s gonna be downtown. Just imagine, a city with tens of thousands of people on the streets, a vibrant city, a city with the name BUFFALO attached to it. Wouldn’t that be a great day for BUFFALO New York? I sure hope all you BUFFALO BILLS fans think that would be a very good thing to have happen. Go Bills!!! I see thousands and thousands of people downtown every day already And it's already a vibrant city from downtown , to Larkin , to North Buffalo , south buffalo... Heck I love the east side and Lovejoy and Ktown as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Chicharito said: First off I have now been to 5 nfl stadiums with “downtown” settings. Cleveland, Denver, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, and now Jacksonville. I went to The Rolling Stones concert in Jacksonville last night. If the nfl wants to pressure the bills to build a new stadium Jacksonville has to build a new one. That stadium is small. I can’t even believe The playing surface is big enough for an nfl game. I literally felt like I was on top of the person next to me. Kind of like being at Fenway Park. With th the obvious traffic problem that will persist if and when a new stadium is built downtown will be atrocious. All DT stadiums have these problems so please Mr. and MRS. Pegula don’t do it. Ive been to JAX stadium twice- the stadium itself was pretty vanilla but the overall weekend times 2 experience was great. Stayed at the landing and water taxi’d to the games- can’t complain much about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Yep... I didnt know about this route but a cop at a stop directed me, take this way. What you're doing is going to take forever. My hat off to him. I did however sit in stop and go traffic for an hour on I90, so the point still stands. Traffic is always going to be an issue leaving a venue with 70 or 50 thousand people there. No way around it. The stadium has almost nothing to do with the sports science facility. I'm sure it could have some use on game days, but nothing that couldn't be replicated in a new stadium. You can practice and use that facility during the week and play downtown. They have little do with each other. Well yeah, fortunately for me, I lived in Orleans county and could drive right past I90 on route 63 and be home in no time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Idk...at least leaving OP, there's a back door route thru Akron that can still put you on I-90 in 30 minutes. Most people just don't know it. Sure as hell beats waiting in line, even if you go 20 miles out of your way you can still be ahead of the curve Is that where u sneak though Akron/Newsread and get on the thruway in Pembroke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 The Redskins stadium is not downtown and not easily accessible to a subway line (it's actually not accessible to anything). It can take an hour and a half to get out of the parking lot. A downtown football located near good access roads and transportation (Ravens stadium for example) can be far from a loser. And what does for the local economy (restaurants, parking concessions, hotels, etc.) is a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 My first reaction was to go ahead and build downtown to help the economy and anchor the redevelopment. While this is all good, it takes away the total essence of what a true Bills team is, especially a winning Bills team playing with a home field advantage in the elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, akcash said: Is that where u sneak though Akron/Newsread and get on the thruway in Pembroke? Yup. I just go north on 63 from there and I'm home in15 miles from Pembroke ?well, what I used to call home anyway Edited July 21, 2019 by BuffAlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Chicharito said: First off I have now been to 5 nfl stadiums with “downtown” settings. Cleveland, Denver, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, and now Jacksonville. I went to The Rolling Stones concert in Jacksonville last night. If the nfl wants to pressure the bills to build a new stadium Jacksonville has to build a new one. That stadium is small. I can’t even believe The playing surface is big enough for an nfl game. I literally felt like I was on top of the person next to me. Kind of like being at Fenway Park. With th the obvious traffic problem that will persist if and when a new stadium is built downtown will be atrocious. All DT stadiums have these problems so please Mr. and MRS. Pegula don’t do it. If you build it, they will come. ™️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Rocket94 said: My first reaction was to go ahead and build downtown to help the economy and anchor the redevelopment. While this is all good, it takes away the total essence of what a true Bills team is, especially a winning Bills team playing with a home field advantage in the elements. how would any of that change? "True Bills team"? the stadium was in the city prior to moving to the Southtowns, so I guess I don't understand the "true" part? the weather would also be practically the same... the stadium needs to be moved back to the city (downtown), and it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 THERE IS NO PARKING DOWN THERE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said: What are the chances they build a site that both the Bills and Sabres share? Maybe not literally the same facility, but 2 stadiums on the same site? I have heard the Sabres could use a new arena too, so maybe get them both done at once? In my mind it is still a new arena, hard to believe 1996 was 23 years ago. Yep I am getting old! Edited July 21, 2019 by Leonhart2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Yup. I just go north on 63 from there and I'm home in15 miles from Pembroke ?well, what I used to call home anyway A little forethought and planning go a long way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I live in Jax, was at the Stones concert and yes, the traffic was terrible. But I’ve lived here for years and knew the quick way out of the stadium which got me quickly around the major traffic jam in downtown. I’m positive most folks here know the best way to egress New Era Stadium to get you to/from your destination too. It’ll be the same -just different- if/when a new Bills venue goes up in Buffalo. P.S. The Rolling Stones are STILL phenomenal! e 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, 87168 said: how would any of that change? "True Bills team"? the stadium was in the city prior to moving to the Southtowns, so I guess I don't understand the "true" part? the weather would also be practically the same... the stadium needs to be moved back to the city (downtown), and it will. We will see. I am anxious to see where. When I supported a stadium downtown before...I got shot down. Wherever it may be, I just want it advantageous to the Bills and of course the fans attending. Edited July 21, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 15 hours ago, ScotSHO said: I'm a north towner, so once I can sneak over to route 5 and head north, I'm golden! And I agree, just do a new stadium or revamp the old one with a covered seating area. No to downtown. shhhhh...that the way we go too! 14 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: What meaningful upgrades are possible in that stadium with its sunken design ? Something that would give actual pricing power ? Fewer seats can be accomplished for certain, but climate control ? Much wider concourses with better concessions and larger restrooms ? I’m not an expert, but I’ve read about these issues when previous renovations were done. A reno won’t be cheap, and the improvements may not go far enough. Any revenue increases will need to come from ticket pricing structure and concessions because a stadium won’t change the corporate situation in Buffalo. Buffalo could improve its traffic flow by fixing the ridiculously poor traffic light timing, for starters. It’s haphazard, nonsensical and horrific. i agree more efficient stands would be great..but i am curious with the huge tailgating nature of Bills games, do you think more concessions are necessary? At the last Fan Board meeting they were talking about introducing "value meals" , aimed more at kids..be interesting to see if they do it. And the bathrooms..especially in the lower bowl...ey yi yi! 8 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Yup. I just go north on 63 from there and I'm home in15 miles from Pembroke ?well, what I used to call home anyway cuurious, where do you park and what route out of the stadium? Is it just 20A over? One time when we were heading to the airport out of Hammers, Waze took us south on Abbott for about 1/2 mile, then east over to the 219( it was the colts snow game, everything was a mess so thats why we used Waze). A couple of games this year i may be heading out that way, thanks inn advance for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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