Big Turk Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Yes, but when the guy at 4 gets it, who is being unreasonable? should he also accept a fully incentive based contract instead of the guaranteed dollars everyone around him gets? And there is the reason for the stalemate...one team doesn't want to set a precedent while other teams don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Yes, but when the guy at 4 gets it, who is being unreasonable? should he also accept a fully incentive based contract instead of the guaranteed dollars everyone around him gets? Josh Allen (the DE for JAX) was selected 7th and has a fully guaranteed no offset contract. NYJ just doing "Jetsy" things as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: In the same vein, a player good enough to be drafted 3rd overall shouldn't be worried about getting cut after the 2nd season. The agent argues your point while the team argues the above. Except that the team chose him; he didn't draft himself. Why take him that early if they had any doubts about him being a franchise cornerstone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, matter2003 said: And there is the reason for the stalemate...one team doesn't want to set a precedent while other teams don't care. Not arguing with you on this so much as pointing out the asinine nature of the jets position in mentioning how thoroughly set the precedent is... has any top 5 guy not gotten this deal? 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Except that the team chose him; he didn't draft himself. Why take him that early if they had any doubts about him being a franchise cornerstone? If they are unwilling to sign the standard format contract for that pick, one might suggest trading back, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Not arguing with you on this so much as pointing out the asinine nature of the jets position in mentioning how thoroughly set the precedent is... has any top 5 guy not gotten this deal? If they are unwilling to sign the standard format contract for that pick, one might suggest trading back, right? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: That's not a cool thing to say. From my understanding Quinnen is a heck of a kid, if anything I'd be weary of Gase. Holy moly what is that guy doing in New York? Bizarre. I almost feel bad for the players almost. I'm sure he is, but you need to understand, I'm a Bills AND Clemson fan so it's personal ? Edited July 20, 2019 by Bubba Gump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Bubba Gump said: I'm sure he is, but you need to understand, I'm a Bills AND Clemson fan ? No doubt. I know how da struggle be, dawg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Except that the team chose him; he didn't draft himself. Why take him that early if they had any doubts about him being a franchise cornerstone? Because there are players who are drafted, do not make best effort for team maybe never wanting to go there and pushed to be released so they can double dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Williams Will eventually report. Darnold pulled this last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Rocket94 said: Williams Will eventually report. Darnold pulled this last year. Did Darnold end up getting the offset language removed? He was drafted at the exact same spot as I recall. Edited July 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 If I remember right, the Jets were able to keep it in. There were several provisions. Need to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Did Darnold end up getting the offset language removed? He was drafted at the exact same spot as I recall. Jets got it in there. 3 practice holdout. But they did get language to void deal if he is suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Jets got it in there. 3 practice holdout. But they did get language to void deal if he is suspended. Ah yes and I remember some sort of language about him not being able to ski or something. But that was a different FO too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ah yes and I remember some sort of language about him not being able to ski or something. But that was a different FO too. Baker didn’t get it either so no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 20 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Keeping an eye on things?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 10:57 AM, YoloinOhio said: Still unsigned and was supposed to be on a flight today to NJ, but wasn’t NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Friday morning that No. 3 overall pick Quinnen Williamsmight not report with teammates today. Per Rapoport, the team planned for Williams, who is still unsigned, to fly in Thursday, but the rookie was not on the flight Bet our DT is in camp.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Kick the tires? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I honestly would give him next years first rounder. But this would never happen so I'll go back to eating my S'mores pop tart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I honestly would give him next years first rounder. But this would never happen so I'll go back to eating my S'mores pop tart. If by some ridiculous reason Quinnen Williams just didn’t agree with the Jets and was available, I would easily give up two first rounders for him. Josh Allen is the only person in the 2019 draft I would have wanted high other than Williams and Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 8:09 PM, John from Riverside said: Not saying Rex was not a disaster...but at least he had a resume of past success Well Gase made P. Manning look good. I mean, who could achieve that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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