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McDermott & Beane on how they avoid Coach- GM “relationship fracture”


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7 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

The relationship between Beane and McDermott is really a microcosm of our relationships here at Two Bills Drive. They don't always see eye to eye, but in the end, after a thorough discussion of the issues, they come to a realization that one answer works best and they move on. No hard feelings.

 

For instance, @Royale with Cheese has learned that brown sugar and cinnamon Pop Tarts absolutely blow chunks. It's not a defect in his thinking, he just had to learn that frosted strawberry are much more enjoyable.

 

Another example, @Gugny has finally come to the realization that pizza crust is only one component of a very good pizza...you still have to have great sauce, whole milk mozz and cup and char pepperoni.

 

Again, @mrags drives a Ford truck.  After much discussion, he's learned how the Ford product line is separated into two categories: death traps or repair shop jackpots.  I don't blame him for his initial thoughts....we have discussed this at length and he finally sees his error.

 

There's countless instances where other members have disagreed with me on topics but they have come around to my line of thinking and the board is better for it such as @ExiledInIllinois (taking no blame for the influx of asian carp in our, once, pristine waters), @ShadyBillsFan (finally admitting his heartfelt loss over the departure of 26CP), @Cripple Creek (being fooled by a "live cam" only to admit his mistake when the mechanized bear needed to be recalibrated by a technician).

 

So many examples of disagreements and then a resolution based on honest discussion.  We really have a great board which mimics the "give and take" of the Beane and McDermott relationship.

Kind of like how @BringBackFergy has finally admitted that he’s a die hard liberal socialist and voted for Hillary and he admitted that he definitely “Felt The Burn” back in 2016 and says its only going to get hotter in 2020. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said:

To me it boils down to agreeing on the QB. From there, everything else kind of falls in place. 

Yeah I don't think these guys need to be to close, and this is a bit overhyped. I don't want one guy doing a much better job than the other precluding ownership from moving on between one or the other because the have such a good relationship.

 

Good for them to agree on the QB they want to coach / have on the roster, since that does lead to the quarterback being marginalized by one or the other. We've seen that before. Falcons GM was high on Brett Favre, coach didn't want any part of him.

 

If we deem McDermott to be a fantastic coach and Beane to be limiting him then it's not hard to find other good GM's that can get on the same page with the coach in place.. part of what makes a GM good is their ability to be compatible with coaching styles. It's great they get along but this quality should be the norm should we want to upgrade one and not treat them as tethered to the hip. I fear the Pegula's see them as a package deal.

4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yup.  We’ll get called haters (though I used to get called a homer so get confused) but it’s the truth.  Fans get made that we get ignored by the national media (I mean we have been pretty irreverent and if the Bills are ever good we get a ton of love) but if we were in NYC (really NJ) or LA, we would have been ripped apart for that hiring process.  

 

Mans the funny thing is the Jets essentially have the same team as us.  We just are under the radar, which is good in this case.

And at the same point, if either team wins, no one will care.  But such an untraditional way of hiring will leave you open to a lot of second guessing if you fail.  

It's unorthodox because it's not a good way to go about business. It can go terribly wrong, but sure, you can get away with it. 

 

And as I mentioned a lot on this thread, the Pegulas are noobie naive sports owners that may not know how to deal with a regime that is tethered to the hip. May bite us in the long run is my fear. One of McBeane or the other may just be the right guy to establish continuity with.

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6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Strange, you say this... I asked my wife last night.  Polled her on her favorite toaster pastry...

 

My wife's fav Pop-Tarts® are Cinnamon & Brown sugar... WTF!  

 

...But, then again, I blow chunks.  Go figure.

 

 

 

[FWIW, I absolutely can't stand cinnamon.  And everybody knows sugar is white, NOT brown.  That brown sugar & cinnamon can go back to where it came from... Repair their shithole country! AND take McBean too!]

I never met a Pop Tart I didn't like. A lil butter melted on top...mmmm.

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6 minutes ago, H2o said:

Under achievers. Fire them both ~ Scott Law

Greatest offseason in the Bills history.  Put them in the Hall of Fame now - H2o ? it works both ways.  

2 hours ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

I never met a Pop Tart I didn't like. A lil butter melted on top...mmmm.

Butter on a pop tart??? ? 

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5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Jeez, bros...get a room!

 

But they need wins or the bromance will fade quickly.  Bilss have won countless off-seasons in the past 10 years....

 

 

you know darned well Bills hit reset with pegulas/ They botched the first efforts.

 so now we have to only to consider the CE of McBeanes.
context please Good Sir 
 

The dynamic is working so far, albeit a slow roll. steady as she goes  el Capitan !

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Greatest offseason in the Bills history.  Put them in the Hall of Fame now - H2o ? it works both ways.  

Butter on a pop tart??? ? 

oh heck yes. just a light spread when it is just out of the toaster and hot.

 

i no longer eat pop tarts , but i recall how tasty they are when done just right. really an art form.
pat of butter on the cinnamon ones was killer

3 hours ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

I never met a Pop Tart I didn't like. A lil butter melted on top...mmmm.

This is what made America great.

Toasted pastries done right

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2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Has the whole interview from today with McDermott and Beane been posted anywhere yet? I cant find it. 

There are a bunch of stories that came from it... but it appears to have been a media session vs an actual interview because numerous reporters released their stories today. Sal, Fairburn, etc

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15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Are you?  Serious question.  You’re such a catty teenage girl.  

 

Follow me here Sabrina the Teenage Poster.  The Bills hire McDermott with Whaley.  Then they go through the draft, fire Whaley, and hired the GM who was McDermott’s friend in Carolina.  When you do a process that less than 1% of teams do, it leads you open to questions (but not by superfan Eball!).

 

I'll reserve my conversation for the adults on the forum, son.  Your brand of immaturity isn't my style.

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Kind of chuckled a bit reading a comment in the article from Beane he was talking about Dorsey the QB coach and how competitive he is.  Beane  mentioned that he see's it in the pickup basketball games the coach must have. 

 

Made me think, could you imagine back in the 90's Mary Levy, Walk Corey, Ted M, and say Bill Polian hooping it up?  Maybe a game of wheelchair ball!  Walt likely would have poked someone in the eye with the swizzle stick anyway.

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