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2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

Yeah, I did answer the question. Just because I didn’t answer it the way you wanted doesn’t mean it wasn’t answered.

 

Your original statement was they would have to give guaranteed contracts. Ain’t happening. No way, no how.

 

Neither is a 18 game schedule

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sorry I missed the last 5 pages 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/mcdermott-prefers-keeping-it-four-preseason-games

 

Put Sean McDermott down on the “keep it the way it is” side when it comes to the debate over the number of preseason games each NFL teams plays.
 

The Buffalo Bills head coach sounds like he’s open to possibly having a three-game preseason, but made it clear he doesn’t think two would be a good idea.

 

“I honestly think we’re at a good number right now,” McDermott said about each team playing four exhibition games. “I say that, part of it is probably habit. As long as I’ve been in the league it’s been four. I think somewhere in that three-to-four range, you should know what you’ve got and how you want to shape it coming out of those three-to-four games.”

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Not sure how much of an update this is (being ESPN and all)  

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27474730/sources-owners-push-expanded-season

 

Sources: Owners push for an expanded season

 

Sources who have been briefed on the current state of CBA negotiations told ESPN that there has been little substantive progress in talks so far. The players' side is determined to up its share of the revenue pool in the next CBA, while the owners so far have indicated that they're not interested in discussing the revenue split absent a discussion on the possibility of expanding the season.

 

No concrete proposals have been submitted by the owners' side regarding the specifics of an expanded season, the sources said. Ideas that have been discussed include expanding the regular season to 18 games, expanding the regular season to 17 games or simply adding an extra round of playoffs. All of those concepts would include a reduction in the number of preseason games -- an idea both sides favor.

 

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I think a fair compromise would be an 18 game season with two byes and no preseason. 

 

Gives the league 20 weeks of live action, gives the fans 2 more real games, gives the players an additional week off during the season and no terrible preseason. 

 

Also, make the Hall of Fame Game a special game during the regular season. Maybe a Sunday night game halfway through the season. 

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There are 22 starters (ignoring kickers).  With 18 games that means you need to rest 1 player on offense and 1 player on defense every week. And for three games rest  2 on each side. Would hardly ruin the game. 

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Maybe less preseason games but more practice time. All I know is that early season is sloppy as hell, sometimes it's hard to watch. Maybe it's always been that way but I don't remember it that way 

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25 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

There are already over 250 regular season games. Can’t the league just figure out how to get more out of them? 

 

Because the owners need to start building up "negotiation capitol" for the upcoming collective bargaining talks.

 

They start the campaign for an 18-game season now, build as much momentum for it as possible, and then give way during negotiations so that the players association can claim a victory.

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23 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Because the owners need to start building up "negotiation capitol" for the upcoming collective bargaining talks.

 

They start the campaign for an 18-game season now, build as much momentum for it as possible, and then give way during negotiations so that the players association can claim a victory.

 

Evil genius.

 

I knew a manufacturing supervisor in Germany that dealt with unions the same way. 

 

Creating leverage out of nothing 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Because the owners need to start building up "negotiation capitol" for the upcoming collective bargaining talks.

 

They start the campaign for an 18-game season now, build as much momentum for it as possible, and then give way during negotiations so that the players association can claim a victory.

 

Their leverage is a lockout, or even a strike.   The owners have already been paid

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It. Will happen at some point, at the same time, pot will not be tested for anymore, total team will go up to 63, and they will be able to dress 5 additional players on game day, and everyone will get a raise. Or something very close to this.

 

As Fans we really don’t care about players health in any real way, lip service sure, but that’s about it, so that’s a non issue for fans.

 

Go Bills!!!

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On 7/23/2019 at 12:31 PM, ShadyBillsFan said:

sorry I missed the last 5 pages 

 

 

 

 

 

very wise

 

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I just wanted to pop in one more time to say what an awful idea 18 games is. 

It's very clear that the fans don't want it, the coaches don't want it, the players don't want it. ONLY the greedy owners want it. 

Just an awful, awful idea. It's going to be a real bummer watching the NFL orchestrate its own demise in the coming years due to nothing more than greed.

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13 minutes ago, Logic said:

I just wanted to pop in one more time to say what an awful idea 18 games is. 

It's very clear that the fans don't want it, the coaches don't want it, the players don't want it. ONLY the greedy owners want it. 

Just an awful, awful idea. It's going to be a real bummer watching the NFL orchestrate its own demise in the coming years due to nothing more than greed.

 

fans want it somewhat

 

nothing like having the hope that your team's 1-6 start can be brushed off for that second WC spot....

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:

I just wanted to pop in one more time to say what an awful idea 18 games is. 

It's very clear that the fans don't want it, the coaches don't want it, the players don't want it. ONLY the greedy owners want it. 

Just an awful, awful idea. It's going to be a real bummer watching the NFL orchestrate its own demise in the coming years due to nothing more than greed.

 

I disagree.    Ask any Seasons holders and ask them 

Who wants to pay full price for a meaningless PS game? 

 

transfer that cost to a real game 

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14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I disagree.    Ask any Seasons holders and ask them 

Who wants to pay full price for a meaningless PS game? 

 

transfer that cost to a real game 

 

 

semantics...

 

i paid, say $800 for 8 regular and 2 preseason games when i had seasons

 

just because the tickets printed $80 per game doesn't make it so.

 

i considered it $100 for regular season and zilch for the preseasons (usually went to the first one and gave away the second for nothing)

 

why stop at 18?  why not 22? isn't that better?  think of the gambling and fantasy league fun that would increase....

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, row_33 said:

semantics...

 

i paid, say $800 for 8 regular and 2 preseason games when i had seasons

 

just because the tickets printed $80 per game doesn't make it so.

 

i considered it $100 for regular season and zilch for the preseasons (usually went to the first one and gave away the second for nothing)

 

why stop at 18?  why not 22? isn't that better?  think of the gambling and fantasy league fun that would increase....

 

 

Hey now.    No fuzzy math allowed !!! 

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11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Hey now.    No fuzzy math allowed !!! 

 

you seriously contemplated asking someone for (say) $80 for a preseason cause it was on the ticket?

 

i wouldn't even ask for a sip of someone's beer for my second preseason game, a few times there were no takers at all for free.

 

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trade 2 PS for real games and it's a basic wash.  

 

If the starters want to rest....  Blow the opponent out in the first half and ride the bench the 2nd half   :D

 

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

you seriously contemplated asking someone for (say) $80 for a preseason cause it was on the ticket?

 

i wouldn't even ask for a sip of someone's beer for my second preseason game, a few times there were no takers at all for free.

 

It is how it was explained to me.   

 

people had complained they were forced to pay top $ for PS games.   they divided by 18  and not 16. 

 

 

their logic ...  the owners don't give tickets away 

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11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

trade 2 PS for real games and it's a basic wash.  

 

If the starters want to rest....  Blow the opponent out in the first half and ride the bench the 2nd half   :D

 

 

i have read that everyone who played on a given regular season Sunday winds up with an injury that would be serious in most other sports.

 

keep stretching their limits and watch them collapse real fast

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I disagree.    Ask any Seasons holders and ask them 

Who wants to pay full price for a meaningless PS game? 

 

transfer that cost to a real game 


I'm all for eliminating two preseason games. Adding two regular season games, however, is another matter.

As it is, by the time we get to the last week of the regular season, every team is a walking MASH unit. I have no interest in seeing bad football with 2nd teamers in weeks 18 and 19. I also have no interest in seeing the record books invalidated/obliterated because now the players get 18 games instead of 16. I realize that the league has already extended its season on a few occasions in the past: from 12 to 14 and then from 14 to 16 games. That's where it should end, in my opinion. Profootballtalk and other outlets have done polls of NFL fans asking this very question, and in every single case, the "don't extend the regular season" option is the winner. By and large, fans don't want it.

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5 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

 

semantics...

 

i paid, say $800 for 8 regular and 2 preseason games when i had seasons

 

just because the tickets printed $80 per game doesn't make it so.

 

i considered it $100 for regular season and zilch for the preseasons (usually went to the first one and gave away the second for nothing)

 

why stop at 18?  why not 22? isn't that better?  think of the gambling and fantasy league fun that would increase....

 

 

 

 

 Can you do that?  Just change the calculation to "its $100 per reg season game"?

 

What's next--you're only paying for the games when they win?  This is a slippery slope to socialism. Or capitalism. One of the ism's for sure. 

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5 hours ago, Logic said:

I just wanted to pop in one more time to say what an awful idea 18 games is. 

It's very clear that the fans don't want it

 

 

The highlighted is total nonsense...........fans can't get enough football.:doh:

 

The owners want it because they know the demand for more NFL product is immense and they are wasting an opportunity with their abbreviated 5 month season/postseason.

 

They are also battling for attention with a league like the NBA.......the NBA is growing in part because they allow the league's best players to change teams............the NFL doesn't want that.    They need to make their season longer and more compelling to continue their dominance over other forms of entertainment that compete for the same eyeballs and dollars.

 

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4 hours ago, Logic said:

As it is, by the time we get to the last week of the regular season, every team is a walking MASH unit.

 

 

More hyperbolic BS.

 

There is attrition in any season............yet most of the teams in the playoffs are playing most of their good players in those playoffs..........they aren't all "walking Mash units".

 

What you say "sounds" like it might be true.......but how often do we get to the end of another Bills regular season and say that the team played poorly down the stretch due to injury and wear and tear?   Kinda' never is the answer.

 

 

 

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