OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: Not at all. I personally find it silly to think that a man who's made billions of dollars suddenly doesn't care whether he makes money simply because it's the Bills. No one in their right mind would spend over a billion dollars without the PRIMARY goal of making it back and then some. I do believe that winning is more important to Terry Pegula than it was to Ralph Wilson. Did I believe it after he came in and hired Rex Ryan? NO. And justifiably so. I'm not a hockey fan, but I'm around enough Sabres fans on here to know that his tenure as owner of that team has not been successful ... if one considers building winning teams as a success. The Pegula/Bills story is just beginning. But I'll side with, "Rich Billionaire Wants to Get Richer," as the likely headline until I see a reason to believe otherwise. ...so then did he categorize in inner circles (forget the link request crap) that the Bills were "Kim's baby"?....perhaps we have a huge disconnect as far as his community enriching ventures versus SOLELY looking for financial gain......why the Harbor Center major investment?......why purchase additional real estate in downtown Buffalo?...why purchase the AHL Amerks in Rochester, negotiate to take over management of the arena and then pledge $10 mil towards upgrades?....couldn't he find safer less speculative investment vehicles if his SOLE purpose was to make money?....just curious as to why you underestimate the guy's sense of community..... Edited July 6, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so then did he categorize in inner circles (forget the link request crap) that the Bills were "Kim's baby"?....perhaps we have a huge disconnect as far as his community enriching ventures versus SOLELY looking for financial gain......why the Harbor Center major investment?......why purchase additional real estate in downtown Buffalo?...why purchase the AHL Amerks in Rochester, negotiate to take over management of the arena and then pledge $10 mil towards upgrades?....couldn't he find safer less speculative investment vehicles if his SOLE purpose was to make money?....just curious as to why you underestimate the guy's sense of community..... I hear Terry is investing in Canada. Details in the future and no it's not land for a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Not at all. I personally find it silly to think that a man who's made billions of dollars suddenly doesn't care whether he makes money simply because it's the Bills. No one in their right mind would spend over a billion dollars without the PRIMARY goal of making it back and then some. I do believe that winning is more important to Terry Pegula than it was to Ralph Wilson. Did I believe it after he came in and hired Rex Ryan? NO. And justifiably so. I'm not a hockey fan, but I'm around enough Sabres fans on here to know that his tenure as owner of that team has not been successful ... if one considers building winning teams as a success. The Pegula/Bills story is just beginning. But I'll side with, "Rich Billionaire Wants to Get Richer," as the likely headline until I see a reason to believe otherwise. He is pretty much guaranteed a profit, that’s the NFL. The NHL? Not quite so much. Yet, he/they continue to pump dollars into both franchises. I’m not so cynical as to believe that the only reason for this is more money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: He is pretty much guaranteed a profit, that’s the NFL. The NHL? Not quite so much. Yet, he/they continue to pump dollars into both franchises. I’m not so cynical as to believe that the only reason for this is more money. I don't' think it's the only reason, either. I'm simply stating that in his first major move as the owner, he effectively destroyed what was a decent team headed in the right direction. And he made money in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't' think it's the only reason, either. I'm simply stating that in his first major move as the owner, he effectively destroyed what was a decent team headed in the right direction. And he made money in the process. What part of guaranteed profit can you not understand? They made mistakes, they’ll make more. Give them hell for that, not because they make a profit, Comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: What part of guaranteed profit can you not understand? They made mistakes, they’ll make more. Give them hell for that, not because they make a profit, Comrade. You ARE being rude today. Ornery, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: You ARE being rude today. Ornery, even. I apologize for pointing out the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: I apologize for pointing out the obvious. @The Bills Blog forgives you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: @The Bills Blog forgives you. People like you and he should stick to the simple topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: People like you and he should stick to the simple topics. Clearly, we'd rather engage with simple TBD members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't' think it's the only reason, either. I'm simply stating that in his first major move as the owner, he effectively destroyed what was a decent team headed in the right direction. And he made money in the process. That team's ceiling was 9. It wasn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: That team's ceiling was 9. It wasn't going anywhere. It certainly didn't get better with a gutted defense and Tyrod ***** Taylor ... thanks to the Pegulas. But again ... record-setting season ticket sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: It certainly didn't get better with a gutted defense and Tyrod ***** Taylor ... thanks to the Pegulas. But again ... record-setting season ticket sales. No, it kind of floated along where it belonged...with a bloated salary cap problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just leave the stadium alone. It's perfect for the market. The only thing they need to do to sell more tickets is win more games. Buffalo needs to focus on improving their economy if they want to replace their blue collar clientele with box seats and PSLs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 42 minutes ago, Gugny said: It certainly didn't get better with a gutted defense and Tyrod ***** Taylor ... thanks to the Pegulas. But again ... record-setting season ticket sales. Your old friend Half Baked is to blame for the on the field product, not the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: What part of guaranteed profit can you not understand? They made mistakes, they’ll make more. Give them hell for that, not because they make a profit, Comrade. I think is pretty insulting to imply he works for the POTUS. His argument is very gungy but not a section of the fanbase (as it is) has not argued before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Your old friend Half Baked is to blame for the on the field product, not the owner. Half Baked was neutered by the point Ryan was brought in and, subsequently, Taylor. Those two additions ended up making the team suck. A lot. And Half Baked had nothing to do with that. It was all Pegula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: Half Baked was neutered by the point Ryan was brought in and, subsequently, Taylor. Those two additions ended up making the team suck. A lot. And Half Baked had nothing to do with that. It was all Pegula. Nnnnnh. Not so sure on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Nnnnnh. Not so sure on that. Hiring Rex Ryan mean the imminent destruction of the top 3 defense Whaley was instrumental in building. There is no way he endorsed that hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, Gugny said: Hiring Rex Ryan mean the imminent destruction of the top 3 defense Whaley was instrumental in building. There is no way he endorsed that hiring. Great built a defense. How'd he do with the O? How about that cap management, too? QB situation? Management of first round picks? Sorry, dude wasn't just high all the time. He was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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