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Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

The Texans are right now paying 2 GMs, they dont want to pay a third and THEN next year hire Caserio from the Pats and then potentially be paying four GMs at the same time.  Caserio had a clause in his contract expiring next year that effectively rendered the Texans ability fo hire him as naught.

 

And the new Owner cal McNair has not accomplished much of anything in his life without Daddy supporting him, he has an excellent shot at being a terrible owner.

Some articles have concluded that the clause is unenforceable and has been ruled such previously.  The wild card here is that the Pats used the tampering as the way to get the Texans to back off.  If he was their guy they needed to grow a pair or continued to be beat by the Pats.

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6 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

Bill O'Brien is a pale imitation of the guys he's trying to emulate.  Can you imagine being a fan of that team?

 

In his first 5 years as HC, O'Brien has a 42-38 win/loss record,  made the playoffs 3 times by winning the division, and had 4 winning seasons.  The Texans went 4-12 in 2017 because Watson was injured 7 games into his rookie season.   O'Brien's three QBs before acquiring Watson were Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler.  O'Brien may not be as good as he thinks he is, but he's a decent HC. 

 

Moreover, the Texans didn't fire their GM in order to promote O'Brien but because they thought they had "their guy" already lined up.  I have no idea who in the Texans' organization is responsible for the roster, but it may be that the ownership was dissatisfied with the GM's inability to improve the OL, which had been a problem in 2017 and wasn't any better in 2018 as Watson also suffered a serious injury last season which hampered his play in several games, including the win over the Bills.

 

Mocking Texans' fans isn't probably the best course for Bills fans.  The Texans have had 7 winning seasons, 5 playoff appearances, and 1 playoff win since they joined the league as an expansion franchise in 2002.   The Bills have had 3 winning seasons and 1 playoff appearance during that same time period.

 

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My point is not to compare results between the two teams, but to note that Bill O'Brien seems to be quite a tool, and not a particularly sharp one either.  Similar to Doug Marrone, Gregg Williams, etc.  Guys that think they are always right, are completely unlikable, and in love with the smell of their own rosy brand of flatulence

 

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the Bills started this trend as they didn't have a QB for 15 years (rimshot 👀)

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2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

In his first 5 years as HC, O'Brien has a 42-38 win/loss record,  made the playoffs 3 times by winning the division, and had 4 winning seasons.  The Texans went 4-12 in 2017 because Watson was injured 7 games into his rookie season.   O'Brien's three QBs before acquiring Watson were Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler.  O'Brien may not be as good as he thinks he is, but he's a decent HC. 

 

Moreover, the Texans didn't fire their GM in order to promote O'Brien but because they thought they had "their guy" already lined up.  I have no idea who in the Texans' organization is responsible for the roster, but it may be that the ownership was dissatisfied with the GM's inability to improve the OL, which had been a problem in 2017 and wasn't any better in 2018 as Watson also suffered a serious injury last season which hampered his play in several games, including the win over the Bills.

 

Mocking Texans' fans isn't probably the best course for Bills fans.  The Texans have had 7 winning seasons, 5 playoff appearances, and 1 playoff win since they joined the league as an expansion franchise in 2002.   The Bills have had 3 winning seasons and 1 playoff appearance during that same time period.

 

Yeah, people who try to act like O’Brien isn’t a good coach are clueless.  He rebuilt PSU after that scandal and made Hackenberg look good (lot of love for him on this board during his draft).  

 

I do get the look he has and brings Marrone vibes.  But if their o line holds up (it was worse than the Bills last year), no one will give a crap about their GM.  GMs are kinda overrated.  It’s not like it’s hard to find hidden talent anymore.  I bet some posters could do a decent job if they were given the opportunity.  JMO though haha.

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14 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

My point is not to compare results between the two teams, but to note that Bill O'Brien seems to be quite a tool, and not a particularly sharp one either.  Similar to Doug Marrone, Gregg Williams, etc.  Guys that think they are always right, are completely unlikable, and in love with the smell of their own rosy brand of flatulence

 

 

This is so different from so many NFL HCs, good and bad,  past and present?  

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so many threads ...  I'll pick this one 

 

Report: Nick Caserio wants out of New England

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-nick-caserio-wants-england-191108925.html

According to Ben Volin of the Boston Globe, the top non-Bill Belichick personnel man there wants out of New England, creating an awkward dynamic for the team.

Caserio has a year left on his contract, and last week’s events make it clear the Patriots intend for him to honor it.

The Texans not hiring a G.M. for the time being also creates a pretty clear impression that they’re holding the seat open until Caserio can fill it.

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17 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Some articles have concluded that the clause is unenforceable and has been ruled such previously.  The wild card here is that the Pats used the tampering as the way to get the Texans to back off.  If he was their guy they needed to grow a pair or continued to be beat by the Pats.

 

Probably correct, not sure why the fired Gaine until they secured a new GM anyway.Cal McNair has is shaping up to be one of the NFLs worst GMs.

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Hey O'Brien.   I knew Belichick.  Belichick was a good friend of mine.  O'Brien, you're no Belichick.

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52 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Hey O'Brien.   I knew Belichick.  Belichick was a good friend of mine.  O'Brien, you're no Belichick.

Fun fact. Bill O’Brien record after 5 years: 42-38, 3 playoff appearances 

 

belichick after 5 seasons: 36-44, 1 playoff appearance

 

just saying 

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21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Fun fact. Bill O’Brien record after 5 years: 42-38, 3 playoff appearances 

 

belichick after 5 seasons: 36-44, 1 playoff appearance

 

just saying 

Does that include his time with the Browns?

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Just now, oldmanfan said:

Does that include his time with the Browns?

His first 4- 5 years were with the Browns 

 

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

His first 4- 5 years were with the Browns 

 

Right.  I want to confirm he was referring to those and not his first 5 with the Pats.

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I understand that more and more teams around the league are centering their front office around their head coach and his vision for the team. Belichick is obviously the first you think of, but Kansas City is set up that way with Andy Reid. Even Buffalo, having McDermott hired first, then getting rid of Whaley and basically hiring McDermott’s handpicked guy in Beane, McDermott is definitely the head of the organization imo. Beane has a role, but he’s there because of McDermott.

 

The problem with Houston is that O’Brien can’t seem to find anyone to really mesh with as a front office executive. The only problem I see is that coaches during the season have enough on their plate. Going through weekly game plans, delegating to assistant coaches, actually coaching. Putting GM type duties on top of that is just an unnecessary burden on the individual. 

 

We might not see it on the field because Houston has a pretty talented overall roster, but I don’t think that this is good for the long term outlook of the franchise. 

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35 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Right.  I want to confirm he was referring to those and not his first 5 with the Pats.

He also went 5-11 his first year with the Pats. I think he was 0-2 before before Mo Lewis killed Bledsoe. 

 

I dont think BOB will win 6 SBs.  I’m just saying Belichick would have been thought of as a worse coach than BOB after 5 years.

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Surprised a trade is not in works unless Pats think he will stay post BB.

 

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Maybe he is being GM under the table as some foil hat posters say Beane was.

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O'Beien seems to be a decent HC.  But it also seems like he can't work with a GM.

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

Maybe he is being GM under the table as some foil hat posters say Beane was.

That’s why if I’m the Pats I just let him go now. I mean otherwise how do you know he has the Pats best interests in mind for the next 7 months? They have a whole season ahead of them.

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23 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said:

We in a way had that no GM model from 2001-2017.

 

Yes imaginary way.  Enjoy watching your Buffalo Unicorns play leap frog.

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They are just going to wait out Caserio aren’t they? 

 

At any rate, my sister’s best friend is married to his brother. His brother was telling me last time that I was there that this is it for Nick in New England. He’s leaving after this year. 

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