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Who Was Better: Bruce Smith or Reggie White

Who Was Better: Reggie White or Bruce Smith?  

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  1. 1. Who Was Better: Reggie White or Bruce Smith?

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1 hour ago, mrags said:

I have no problem with it. I don’t get offended by easily. It was his opinion. Brice was a coke head. There’s a difference 

Seems like you're easily offended by drug use.

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2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

For longevity, Bruce is better. He’s still alive.

 

WINNING!

 

A terribly offensive and disrespectful comment

2 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Deacon Jones

 

He has nowhere near the numbers that Bruce or Reggie do

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Um... Reggie White is dead.

 

I dont appreciate using someone’s death as humor

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3 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:

For the longest time there has been a debate with my friends about who the greatest Defensive End was during the time we started watching football in the late 80’s and into the 90’s.

 

Back then we thought we had the best DE in the NFL in Bruce Smith.  Others considered Reggie White, from Philly, at the time to be the best. 

 

Now that we have the benefit of hindsight, the question is...who was really better?

 

Statistically there really isn’t much difference.  Reggie played 15 seasons with 198 sacks.  Bruce played 17 with 200 sacks.  Of course, Bruce is the all-time leader.   Both men should be considered toward as the best DE’s ever.

 

I hate to say it, but I’m going to give the edge to Reggie.  I think he was a much better leader and impacted the game more than Bruce did.  

 

For many years, I would argue in favor Bruce but one game made me change my mind.  What sealed the deal for me was in a 1996 playoff game.  Bruce had the flu and was questionable to play.  This happens quite a bit in the NFL and players usually play through sickness.  So I was really shocked when he missed the game.  Pittsburgh scored 40 points so the team definitely could’ve used Bruce.

 

I immediately thought of the Thanksgiving game against Dallas where Reggie played with a severely injured arm.  He should have missed several weeks but he played through it.  Thinking of that made me say “It’s official, Reggie is better.”  

 

 As an adult, I can see the flawed logic there, but forgetting that incident, it doesn’t change my answer.  Bruce was fantastic, but I think Reggie was the greatest of all-time.

 

Bruce played 19 years not 17. Bruce had only 2 more sacks in 4 more seasons played. I agree that Reggie was the better of the two and the greatest of all time. They are definitely the top 2 though. 

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3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

A terribly offensive and disrespectful comment

 

He has nowhere near the numbers that Bruce or Reggie do

 

 173.5 sacks in 191 games, how is that nowhere near?

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5 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

I dont appreciate using someone’s death as humor

 

Um, what?  I wasn't using it as humor.  The poster proposed an arm wrestling match...

 

Also you should chill.  The world isn't going to calibrate itself to your sensitivity level.

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Just now, Bray Wyatt said:

 

 173.5 sacks in 191 games, how is that nowhere near?

 

He doesn’t pertain to this question.  I didn’t say who was the best ever.  I said Bruce or Reggie...

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3 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Well that’s what was reported.  My thinking is that Bruce Smith at 40% health is probably better than whoever was his replacement. 

 

No way, no how.  If Bruce had an actual full blown case of influenza he would have made the Bills much worse that day had he tried to play.  Influenza isn't something you just shake off, suck it up and go out and play a game of NFL football with.

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Just now, Phil The Thrill said:

 

He doesn’t pertain to this question.  I didn’t say who was the best ever.  I said Bruce or Reggie...

 

And why would you ask that question, if not to ascertain who was the best ever?

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Bruce played 19 years not 17. Bruce had only 2 more sacks in 4 more seasons played. I agree that Reggie was the better of the two and the greatest of all time. They are definitely the top 2 though. 

 

...if I remember correctly, didn't Bruce become even more effective when he dropped some weight?.....thought he was + or - 290 as a rook and trimmed to near 265...probably wrong.....senior moment AGAIN...

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4 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

He doesn’t pertain to this question.  I didn’t say who was the best ever.  I said Bruce or Reggie...

lol... move the goal posts much?

 

 

now lets go back to your actual post about jones not having the numbers.. the reason he doesn't have near the numbers is because sacks wasn't a stat yet. however they are a stat now because of deacon.

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1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

lol... move the goal posts much?

 

 

and the reason he doesn't have near the numbers is because sacks wasn't a stat yet. however they are a stat now because of deacon.

 

...who would certainly be in the conversation of "best ever".....Rams' Fearsome Foursome was dominant+...........

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1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

lol... move the goal posts much?

 

 

and the reason he doesn't have near the numbers is because sacks wasn't a stat yet. however they are a stat now because of deacon.

 

Get over it...he’s not a choice in this poll

 

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2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Get over it...he’s not a choice in this poll

 

solid response... good talk.

 

I would have led with that instead of referencing numbers that didn't exist yet.

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10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Um, what?  I wasn't using it as humor.  The poster proposed an arm wrestling match...

 

Also you should chill.  The world isn't going to calibrate itself to your sensitivity level.

 

My bad.  I didn’t see that you were responding to the arm wrestling comment.

 

You’ll read another member’s comment who used Reggie’s death as a joke.  It’s not me being sensitive. It’s making light out of the death of someone

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Both were great, two of the best ever.  One has a ring one does not.  Ring = tiebreaker 

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4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

lol... move the goal posts much?

 

 

now lets go back to your actual post about jones not having the numbers.. the reason he doesn't have near the numbers is because sacks wasn't a stat yet. however they are a stat now because of deacon.

 

He seems very sensitive, asks a question which seems to be leading to the GOAT in regards to best pass rusher (otherwise what is the point of this poll), I interject another possible option hoping to add to the conversation, he makes a factually incorrect statement about said player, then shifts the goal posts when called on it. Very strange.....

 

Also they had someone go back through the old games and total the sacks, deacon had 173.5 in 191 games, which is averaging more sacks per game than Reggie

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23 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Seems like you're easily offended by drug use.

Well done. 

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43 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

That REALLY confused me as they lost to the Jags in 1996. Either you meant 95, or the Pit game went into the 96 calander. Took me a sec

 

This is the game where Jim Kelly just killed them.  Maybe his worst playoff game.  

 

I remember he got knocked out and went into the tunnel.  You though he was done but Van Pelt came in and was playing well.  Then Jimbo came back injured returned to the game and sealed their loss.  More tough than brains

3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

He seems very sensitive, asks a question which seems to be leading to the GOAT in regards to best pass rusher (otherwise what is the point of this poll), I interject another possible option hoping to add to the conversation, he makes a factually incorrect statement about said player, then shifts the goal posts when called on it. Very strange.....

 

Also they had someone go back through the old games and total the sacks, deacon had 173.5 in 191 games, which is averaging more sacks per game than Reggie

 

Thats like someone saying “Who was better Michael Jordan or LeBron James?” and someone says “Wilt Chamberlain”

 

It’s like “ummmm, ok.  But that wasn’t the question - Michael or LeBron?  Bruce or Reggie? Come on, man

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4 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

This is the game where Jim Kelly just killed them.  Maybe his worst playoff game.  

 

I remember he got knocked out and went into the tunnel.  You though he was done but Van Pelt came in and was playing well.  Then Jimbo came back injured returned to the game and sealed their loss.  More tough than brains

 

Thats like someone saying “Who was better Michael Jordan or LeBron James?” and someone says “Wilt Chamberlain”

 

It’s like “ummmm, ok.  But that wasn’t the question - Michael or LeBron?  Bruce or Reggie? Come on, man

 

Michael, Reggie are the correct answers

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Without a doubt Bruce Smith was much better guy had a motor that would not quit

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54 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

A terribly offensive and disrespectful comment

 

He has nowhere near the numbers that Bruce or Reggie do

 

I dont appreciate using someone’s death as humor

Get over your bad self.

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55 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

I dont appreciate using someone’s death as humor

 

Not even the Gary Coleman coffin meme?  Come on.  That was pure gold.

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...as an aside without derailing the thread, Reggie passing at 44 was a major tragedy..............glad to see we still remember his greatness......

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46 minutes ago, mrags said:

Well done. 

 

You hear that @Jauronimo?  He wants his burger well done.  Flip it!!!

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2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

White had an additional 23.5 sacks in his two seasons in the USFL. He initially chose the USFL for the most obvious reason: they paid him more. 

So you are saying he had professional training before going to NFL raising number of sacks first year in NFL.

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