OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Mark Clayton is more HOF worthy. ...before Marshawn??......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 McNabb was better in Madden than he was in real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Hall of Very Good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 He seemed like he was missing that edge, sometimes seeming lackadaisical even in big games. Maybe a bit like Bledsoe? He was a good player, very good maybe, but not an NFL Hall of Fame caliber player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 19 hours ago, Gugny said: McNabb is a first ballot Hall of Very Good candidate. He's not a Hall of Famer. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: Donovan McNabb couldn’t carry Big Ben’s jockstrap. ..LMAO....'Cuse on the Loose (lipped)"............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. 6 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Not even close to being worthy https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 ...lay low and let the Hall decide or even the Vet Committee versus self proclaimed validity......how long did it take Art Monk?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 19 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Troy Aikman Super Bowl wins 3, Donovan McNabb Super Bowl wins 0 Another reason to never use QB stats when comparing careers. Have to think about it for more than 2 seconds? no.... have to use somewhat useful stats to back it up? ***** no.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm Numbers are not the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Do you guys think Big Ben is a HOFer? I think he and McNabb had basically the same level of impact on a game. Big Ben has two Super Bowl rings, three AFC titles, engineered a game winning drive in a Super Bowl, and almost pulled off a Super Bowl comeback drive against Green Bay. McNabb puked in the Super Bowl. Literally https://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Yes_McNabb_puked_at_Super_Bowl_ex-fullback_says.html Edited May 25, 2019 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 19 hours ago, whatdrought said: 5 out of 4 Philadelphians said no and that’s he’s garbage. In fairness, these are the same fans who booed when McNabb was drafted because they wanted Ricky Williams (how did that one work out for Mike Ditka?). That said, I agree with the many who have already stated that McNabb belongs in the 'Hall of Very Good'. To me, he was the precursor to an Andy Dalton type...good enough to keep you competitive but not good enough to take you to 'The Promised Land'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Numbers are not the whole story. Agreed but it gives context. Those Bills teams were absolutely loaded. Kelly was kinda terrible in the playoffs. It wasnt to put down Kelly but McNabb is much closer to Kelly than some folks will admit here. He had a very good career. Not HOF but very good. To completely dismiss him is wrong. 18 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: He averaged roughly 23 TD's and 10 picks a season in a pass happy Andy Reid offense. He was a solid runner, but he also took a ton of sacks behind a decent line. Much of that can be attributed to his subpar offensive weapons, but he held on to the ball way too long for my taste. Maybe better than good all things considered, but not a HOF'er. Fair or not, a Superbowl win would probably give him a stronger case, so I agree with you there. Fair points. I also remember besides that year with TO he had some garbage receivers - James Thrash, Freddie Mitchell. Absolute trash for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 20 hours ago, whatdrought said: 5 out of 4 Philadelphians said no and that’s he’s garbage. 5 out of 4 philly people are morons. ? 20 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Troy Aikman Super Bowl wins 3, Donovan McNabb Super Bowl wins 0 Another reason to never use QB stats when comparing careers. I’m not sure what this means. Do you think Joe Flacco and Eli Manning are better than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: In fairness, these are the same fans who booed when McNabb was drafted because they wanted Ricky Williams (how did that one work out for Mike Ditka?). That said, I agree with the many who have already stated that McNabb belongs in the 'Hall of Very Good'. To me, he was the precursor to an Andy Dalton type...good enough to keep you competitive but not good enough to take you to 'The Promised Land'. Good points. I think McNabb is better than Dalton (went to a Sb and like 4 title games) but also feel Dalton gets slighted. If Allen had Dalton’s career stat wise, I think we would take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 If Eli gets in McNabb should get in. He was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 5 out of 4 philly people are morons. ? I’m not sure what this means. Do you think Joe Flacco and Eli Manning are better than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino? It means 3 Super Bowl wins by a QB punch an automatic ticket to the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 lol no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: If Eli gets in McNabb should get in. He was better. You are 100% right. Eli kinda sucked for a long time. But those 2 wins get you in. If McNabb got 1, he would be in. 15 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: It means 3 Super Bowl wins by a QB punch an automatic ticket to the HOF. Gotcha. I was young for the Aikman years and thought he was much better than he ended up being. His numbers kinda sucked. But he played on one of the most loaded teams of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm You just don’t get football history. Everything is not numbers in black and white. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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