DC Tom Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Foxx said: really good point. https://twitter.com/RepLizCheney/status/1184521889135386624 Determining House procedure lies solely with the House. Which means that the House has the sole responsibility of determining how they pursue impeachment. So let's go check the parlimentary rules for the current sitting House, and see what they say about impeachment. They say... ...nothing. There are no defined impeachment procedures. They basically half-ass it on the fly. But - and this is important - they have a Constitutional right to determine their impeachment procedure as "half-assing it on the fly." It's like McConnell's hold-up of the Garland nomination: stupid, juvenile, counter-productive, and entirely Constitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Determining House procedure lies solely with the House. Which means that the House has the sole responsibility of determining how they pursue impeachment. So let's go check the parlimentary rules for the current sitting House, and see what they say about impeachment. They say... ...nothing. There are no defined impeachment procedures. They basically half-ass it on the fly. But - and this is important - they have a Constitutional right to determine their impeachment procedure as "half-assing it on the fly." It's like McConnell's hold-up of the Garland nomination: stupid, juvenile, counter-productive, and entirely Constitutional. how do we know the House actually supports this star chamber impeachment inquiry and that it is not just upon the whims of president wannabe Pelosi and her cohorts? it could be that they are intimidated into silent acquiescence by her standing. without a vote to express the will of the entire House, it is, as you say... half-assing it. at some point the transcripts will have to be released. because of the on the fly routine here, who knows if they will before there is a vote on articles of impeachment but it will have to be done as supporting evidence of their article(s) of impeachment that gets forwarded to the Senate for a trial. this is all grandstanding to minimize their ineptitude. if they learned anything from the Mueller Report hearings, it is that they learned to not let their agenda get B word slapped in the public eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: how do we know the House actually supports this star chamber impeachment inquiry and that it is not just upon the whims of president wannabe Pelosi and her cohorts? it could be that they are intimidated into silent acquiescence by her standing. without a vote to express the will of the entire House, it is, as you say... half-assing it. at some point the transcripts will have to be released. because of the on the fly routine here, who knows if they will before there is a vote on articles of impeachment but it will have to be done as supporting evidence of their article(s) of impeachment that gets forwarded to the Senate for a trial. this is all grandstanding to minimize their ineptitude. if they learned anything from the Mueller Report hearings, it is that they learned to not let their agenda get B word slapped in the public eye. Still Constitutional. The Houses of Congress have sole discretion to determine their rules of proceedings, including how they determine their rules of proceedings. There's nothing that says the House can't simply allow the Speaker to make it up as he goes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Still Constitutional. The Houses of Congress have sole discretion to determine their rules of proceedings, including how they determine their rules of proceedings. There's nothing that says the House can't simply allow the Speaker to make it up as he goes along. An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history. Gerald Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 THE JOURNOLIST IS HOPPING: No More Pretense: Journalists, Dems Use Identical Talking Points on Impeachment (Video). Just think of the media as Democratic Party operatives with Chyrons, and their lockstep phraseology all makes sense. I said this after the First debate................. Democrats have reason to worry after the last presidential debate. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) Impeachment Becomes A Psychodrama Of the Press. Iowa 2020: Just 7% call impeachment ‘important. . . Edited October 18, 2019 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Where is this bi-partisan support for impeachment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The OP, someone called @Tiberius, made a claim that there is bi-partisan support for impeachment. Where's the proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just because they have the evidence if guilt, testimony of guilt and have a duty to protect the constitution doesn't mean they have to impeach this corrupt POS, but it is the right thing to do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The OP, someone called @Tiberius, made a claim that there is bi-partisan support for impeachment. Where's the proof? This is all he's got: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Coups don't need to follow any rules. If this is a coup, they should just arrest those whining 9 Republicans. That would send a good message to the rest of the Republicans. This is a coup and if any stinkin Republican gets in the way, we should put them up against the wall....just like we would see in a real coup. What? Not happening? Hmm, maybe we are witnessing a highly partisan, fully constitutional, political impeachment process and not a coup? Just a thought 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said: Coups don't need to follow any rules. If this is a coup, they should just arrest those whining 9 Republicans. That would send a good message to the rest of the Republicans. This is a coup and if any stinkin Republican gets in the way, we should put them up against the wall....just like we would see in a real coup. What? Not happening? Hmm, maybe we are witnessing a highly partisan, fully constitutional, political impeachment process and not a coup? Just a thought The coup has been ongoing since 2017 -- and hasn't been done in broad daylight because they know the people do not support it. Doing it out in the open would lead to the complete unraveling of the country into sectarian violence. ...And you still didn't answer me earlier. Do you, Bob, still believe that Russia and Trump worked together to steal the 2016 election? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Coups don't need to follow any rules. If this is a coup, they should just arrest those whining 9 Republicans. That would send a good message to the rest of the Republicans. This is a coup and if any stinkin Republican gets in the way, we should put them up against the wall....just like we would see in a real coup. What? Not happening? Hmm, maybe we are witnessing a highly partisan, fully constitutional, political impeachment process and not a coup? Just a thought Nah dude it's a coup you stinky pothead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 sectarian violence - they think you're stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: sectarian violence - they think you're stupid You are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob in Mich Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The coup has been ongoing since 2017 -- and hasn't been done in broad daylight because they know the people do not support it. Doing it out in the open would lead to the complete unraveling of the country into sectarian violence. ...And you still didn't answer me earlier. Do you, Bob, still believe that Russia and Trump worked together to steal the 2016 election? Just stop with the coup talk. It is incorrect as well as inflammatory and you know that. As I just pointed out, why would coup leaders be following any rules? They wouldn't. Power is taken without an impeachment process in a real coup. In addition, this current inquiry surrounds Trumps actions in 2019. There are some less stable folks around here, ahem TYTT, that could be convinced this is an actual takeover and so convinced that he needs to gun down his neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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