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Could Ed Oliver play DE

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He is a tackle but can move around a bit ... plays very fast and Elite talent.  I think he could be a home run pick. 

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14 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Not sure why we’d mess with our prized rookie.  Let Oliver play where he projects best.  And the almost universal consensus is his best position is 3 Tech DT.  

 

That is what I saw as a consensus view of him.

 

but fans like to make up whatever and think it’s genius

 

 

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15 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

With his size/speed he can move around on the line. I expect to see him used creatively, including some plays at end.

I think he'll play a lot at the traditional DE position.  Just too good an athlete to box him in with the big bodies

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of course he could play DE

 

don't see it happening.  looks to be a perfect penetrating DT

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20 hours ago, CuddyDark said:

In this defense it's better he play 3tech. People don't understand the LDE is not supposed to get sacks. He's supposed to protect the Weak backer from traffic and set the edge in the run game. If that player get 5-9 sacks it's a bonus. You want the pressure to come up the middle and from RDE, not off LDE.

This. Exactly this. 

 

Who here remembers Alan Branch in 2013? He was the least sexy name on a D-line that had Hughes, Dareus, Mario and Kyle, but he was still our base package LDE. 

 

We have LorAx and Yarborough to sub in for Lawson on nickel and dime packages. Let's not ruin a new player.

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14 hours ago, Stallions said:

I think he'll play a lot at the traditional DE position.  Just too good an athlete to box him in with the big bodies

 

keeping his weight up in the land of the behemoths was a problem for him

 

i look forward to this story unwinding this year!!

 

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He can do anything he wants

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2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

He can do anything he wants

 

....especially after a purely CLASS move to have visited Pancho Billa before his passing...

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On 5/13/2019 at 9:14 AM, GreggTX said:

That would not be wise. He doesn't have sufficient length toplay DE. He might make some plays there or at NT, but he'd be much more effective as a 3-gap DT.

Wow - a 3 gapper.  He is talented.

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Sure he could and at times he may. Will most likely be moved around against weak links along the OL trying to find chinks in the armor. 

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On 5/13/2019 at 8:15 PM, billsfan89 said:

Oliver might be good as a 3-4 DE but in a 4-3 he probably wouldn't have the elite speed needed to work off the edge. Ed is a 287 pound dude who runs a 4.7 40. That's elite for a DT but that's fairly average speed for a DE. I could see the Bills shifting Ed around esp on goal line and short yardage packages to really hold the edge without giving up speed. But he is going to be rushing the passer from the intro 85% or more of the time. 

I disagree.  4.7 is a very good time for a DE.  Yes, there are guys that run a 4.5, but there are also DEs in the league who are up in the 4.9 range, and a lot in the 4.8 range.  The thing that makes Oliver so successful though is his burst off the line.  He beats the offensive lineman with an amazing first step, combined with effective hand fighting and DT strength.  Still, I have no desire to to see him moved to DE full time.  I think Buffalo will get increased production from their DEs simply because Oliver is causing disruption in the middle.

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On 5/13/2019 at 5:32 AM, thenorthremembers said:

He played Defensive End is some packages in college.  He played every position on the defensive line.  He also dropped into coverage as a linebacker on some plays.

Stop trolling the board Rex

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On 5/13/2019 at 9:40 PM, MrEpsYtown said:

Oliver was born to be a three technique though. 

 

I am no Xs and Os expert but literally everything I’ve read about Oliver says he is a perfect fit as the 3-tech in McD’s defense. Why would you want to mess with that?

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However. . .if the Bills should ever happen to switch to a 3-4, I'll bet Oliver could make a pretty seamless transition to a 5 tech defensive end.  I'm not advocating that, to be sure, but that could work pretty well.  He might ev en be able to play a rush linebacker in that scheme.

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It would only possibly make sense if the Bills had another penetrating 3 tech DT, they don't.  I was just speculating if a DT like McCoy were on the team.  I look forward to seeing Oliver as a 3 Tech DT, but I think he would be good also as a DE, but there would be no reason to move him if there is no one to take his place as a 3 tech.  

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On 5/13/2019 at 7:02 AM, richardb1952 said:

I am not an expert in this at all, but I see that Gerald McCoy might be available, and if so, would it be possible to move Oliver to 

DE sometimes and have a lineup consisting of Oliver, Totulelei, McCoy, Hughes.  Oliver is quick off the snap, I think he could hold his own on the edge and can certainly bring the pressure.  If such a lineup were possible, it would certainly add versatility to the lineup.  McCoy is interesting in that his salary for the next 3 years has no dead cap, he's still highly productive and would definitely make the DL better.  I think he could have been a target if the Bills didn't get Oliver.  If Oliver could play some DE, it might solve one of the areas of concern the FO has concerning a pass rushing DE along with Hughes.  

 

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On 5/14/2019 at 1:39 PM, HOUSE said:

He can do anything he wants

 

I doubt he can cook like Kiko! That’s a pretty high bar! 

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lets just get him on the field healthy for week 1 and ensuing

 

 

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Why take a rookie that is possibly the best 3 tech on this team and mess with his position. Let's see what the kid has 1st.

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