RyanC883 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 pick it up. Worst case is a high-end backup player at a high-end backup price. He is a VERY good run defender. he improved last year. If he improves that much again this year, we will be very happy we extended him. Plus, he likely puts up great numbers with Oliver taking so much attention. 7 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: He's had some big hits. He's super motivated. Oliver will create more opportunities for him. Our defense was number 2 in the league with Shaq in the lineup. Keep him. His first year was a wash because of the injury. Nobody got a lot of sacks on this team, but he had some big hits. Keep him. totally agree with this. Plus, he was one of our best, if not best, run defenders. And we need players who can defend the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Woodman19 said: Exactly, you can do better in free agency with $10.2 million than Shaq. Don't overvalue him just because he's home grown. 10 mil is basically a solid player salary now a days . I think its worth the risk because we can just release him at the end of the season if he doesn't have a serious injury. If he steps his pass rush up to around 8sks and can still be one of the best at DE against the run then he'll be well worth it. Plus we have to keep that franchise tag available for Jerry . So give him the 5th yr option and hopefully he blows up this yr and we won't have to make a decision on him and Jerry. Edited April 30, 2019 by BillsFan1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Give him one more year to mature...keep him around. Let him walk if he doesn't earn the 10 mil in his option year. He is young, and apparently has finally learned how to be a pro. Maybe he will be a late bloomer. terrible Whaley/Ryan pick though....he was not ready..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Is the likelihood of an injury that prevents him from passing a physical higher than the likelihood of him becoming a $10m per year player? That’s the decision Beane has to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I don't pick up the option. I thought we won the lottery when Shaq dropped to us at 19, but he has not lived up to that first-round billing. Solid player, but not worth $10M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, thurst44 said: And we have the cap room, so it's worth the chance. This is really it. If we were tight to the cap, then it's probably a no, but in this case, why create a hole just to save Terry a few bucks? Replacing him in FA would cost way more to get someone that likely isn't going to be much better if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I don't pick up the option. I thought we won the lottery when Shaq dropped to us at 19, but he has not lived up to that first-round billing. Solid player, but not worth $10M. Isn't it $14M he'd get on the option? https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/04/bills-undecided-on-shaq-lawsons-fifth-year-option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: Another crappy pick by Whaley. Shaq is too Chris-Kelsay-ish. Plays like him. Even wears the same number. Has done nothing. Buy-bye. Funny. I was just comparing him to Kelsay in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Isn't it $14M he'd get on the option? https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/04/bills-undecided-on-shaq-lawsons-fifth-year-option Even better. At $14M, NFW! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 No way do they pick up his option at that price. They can probably get Ziggy for that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 $14m for 3 years sounds about right. $14m for 1 year is crazy for a 4-3 DE who doesn't get consistent pressure on the QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Trade Shaq and our 2020 1st for Clowney and a mid-round pick. Zero reason for us to be slotted in the top half of the draft, especially with Clowney on this DL. Edited April 30, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Give him one more year to mature...keep him around. Let him walk if he doesn't earn the 10 mil in his option year. He is young, and apparently has finally learned how to be a pro. Maybe he will be a late bloomer. terrible Whaley/Ryan pick though....he was not ready..... I agree , just look at Jerry it took him 4yrs to get his career on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN-Bills Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: i don’t think he’s earned that 5th year money yet but I think he could earn a long term deal this year. If he doesn’t, take the comp pick and move on. My thoughts exactly. I believe they'll take the compensatory pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, bigK14094 said: Give him one more year to mature...keep him around. Let him walk if he doesn't earn the 10 mil in his option year. He is young, and apparently has finally learned how to be a pro. Maybe he will be a late bloomer. terrible Whaley/Ryan pick though....he was not ready..... Who would you have picked in his place? I say that, because if you go back in look, there weren't really any better options. Maybe in the next round there were, but those were all reaches at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 The fact that they haven't made a decision yet tells me they are still exploring a trade. They know what Shaq Lawson can do, it's not like they need to watch the tape again. If a trade happens they won't pick up his option, if it doesn't they will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 #2. This is his "show me" year. Besides, who's to say he won't get his veteran contract and hit the snooze button like Dareus did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don't think there is any way they pick up the option. I just don't think they love him as a player, and I as I said yesterday on the board somewhere, I don't think they want to tie up funds to guys who don't truly fit their vision. I like Shaq and I think there is still some upside there. But you really can't justify giving him 11-14 million on a 1 year deal. Picking up the option on Shaq and extending Jerry is going to tie up 25-30 million in cap for 2020. I think they use those funds and try to acquire a different group of defensive ends. I'd rather sign Clowney and give him 30 million up front than sign those two guys. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but they Bills are going to have a ton of cap space next season. I could be wrong, but I doubt they extend Hughes. Paying older players for past production is never a good idea, and he'll be 32 by the start of the 2020 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Who would you have picked in his place? I say that, because if you go back in look, there weren't really any better options. Maybe in the next round there were, but those were all reaches at that spot. Yeah, it was a pretty terrible first round, but some really nice players in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Ten million for Lawson?! God no!!! He seems like a nice guy, but his play has been the zenith of mediocrity. The Pegulas might as well drive down the 190 and throw $100 bills out the car window- 'twould be an absolute waste of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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