BADOLBILZ Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Come on. There was good discourse back and forth - would hate to see it reduced to "you're not a real fan if you're critical of the product." It was pretty much just JW evading detail for things that he said. That's his prerogative but why even go the opinion route if you don't want to expand on it? Just throw it on the pile with the other "they are good and that's all I really gotta' say about that" takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, RochesterLifer said: Honestly Coach, I haven't found this to be "good discourse" at all. While JW is sharing his (quality) thoughts and information, BADOLBILZ has petulantly and pointlessly argued with every post, as if taking on a sportswriter is providing 15 minutes of fame. I look forward to what JW has to share and have had to tolerate BADOLBILZ' (I want ice cream!!!!!!) grade school level responses to read it. Serious question.....are you going to provide us with some pertinent comments or are you here to critique a poster who has been here for decades, and may have forgotten more than you will ever know about football. I suggest that you read his posts, evaluate them, and perhaps learn something, or at the very least, consider a point of view that doesn't necessarily coincide with yours. If you want to read nothing but rah-rah type posts, you might consider signing onto some of these "grade school" sites about which you speak instead of coming here with the sole intent of insulting our members. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It was pretty much just JW evading detail for things that he said. That's his prerogative but why even go the opinion route if you don't want to expand on it? Just throw it on the pile with the other "they are good and that's all I really gotta' say about that" takes. You're the king of no details..just spewing out crap because you need attention. Edited May 31, 2019 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Are we really offended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I just cannot believe after what we witnessed for the 17 years before Beane and McDermott that anyone would or even could think we are trending the wrong way. Even if it takes 5 more years we will never be basement dwellers with these 2 at the helm and will always be trending upwards, and wil be able to make moves as needed. This much I feel extremely confident about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Serious question.....are you going to provide us with some pertinent comments or are you here to critique a poster who has been here for decades, and may have forgotten more than you will ever know about football. I suggest that you read his posts, evaluate them, and perhaps learn something, or at the very least, consider a point of view that doesn't necessarily coincide with yours. If you want to read nothing but rah-rah type posts, you might consider signing onto some of these "grade school" sites about which you speak instead of coming here with the sole intent of insulting our members. I don't know Bill, your "Serious question" quickly devolves into a defensive rant. Despite that, I'll give a brief, somewhat serious answer: - I did not critique a poster, merely his argumentative responses in this discussion. - I also did not critique this site (which I very much enjoy), merely the argumentative responses in this discussion - You are correct, I rarely post. When I do, it is usually supportive of the conversation at hand. That's just my personality. - Finally, I am sorry to read that BADOLBILZ may have forgotten a lot of football. I hope he gets his memory back. Does being from NYC, Bill, contribute to your effervescent style of communications? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 It is a shame, the direction this thread has headed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: It is a shame, the direction this thread has headed. It's better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said: I don't know Bill, your "Serious question" quickly devolves into a defensive rant. Despite that, I'll give a brief, somewhat serious answer: - I did not critique a poster, merely his argumentative responses in this discussion. - I also did not critique this site (which I very much enjoy), merely the argumentative responses in this discussion - You are correct, I rarely post. When I do, it is usually supportive of the conversation at hand. That's just my personality. - Finally, I am sorry to read that BADOLBILZ may have forgotten a lot of football. I hope he gets his memory back. Does being from NYC, Bill, contribute to your effervescent style of communications? LOL it might. That said, I do repeat my suggestion that by looking over his posts, the possibility that you will learn something does exist. Be well!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: Here is the issue, there are people like BADOLBILZ, who share the same idea about the current FO, but here is the problem, in the off-season you get crucified for it even if you back it with facts .....and during the regular season you get told “you just hoping to be right more than the Bills team/player succeeding” even though during the whole year one presented this view and crucified for it and told “you are not a Bills” or “Go root for another team”. Negative.....Bado gets his grief because of the way he responds to those who have a different viewpoint. It really is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: It was pretty much just JW evading detail for things that he said. That's his prerogative but why even go the opinion route if you don't want to expand on it? Just throw it on the pile with the other "they are good and that's all I really gotta' say about that" takes. I am going to say it does NOT go on that pile because he is in a position to know what is going on behind the scenes which you do not. Bado has great takes....he knows his football...he is also is very abrasive....period 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: LOL it might. That said, I do repeat my suggestion that by looking over his posts, the possibility that you will learn something does exist. Be well!!! Ha, thanks. Here's a phrase I'll bet we agree on - Go Bills! Have a great weekend! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am going to say it does NOT go on that pile because he is in a position to know what is going on behind the scenes which you do not. Bado has great takes....he knows his football...he is also is very abrasive....period John, we have known each other for years. We can all be a bit abrasive, no? My take is that this site is great because of the differing views, not in spite of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I love what Beane has done in his time here! While both Beane and McD have made mistakes in certain players and some hires for assistants they have been fairly quick to make changes. Beane brought in a big, tall WR that the team has needed in forever and it just so happened that the player just didn't want to do his job. Charles Clay was somewhat in that mold. McD replaced OC Rick Dennison, WR coach Terry Robskie, ST coach Danny Crossman, Run game coordinator/ O line coach Juan Castillo. When these men failed to do a good job they were replaced! Beane in free agency added some experienced tough veteran players and in the draft he went to BPA and filled a need at the same time. In the 2018 draft QB Josh Allen was a need and BPA, Tremaine Edmunds was a need and BPA. In the 2019 DT Ed Oliver was a need and BPA, Cody Ford was a need and BPA. Not to mention some of the gold the man has found in free agent aside from the free agency period in CB Levi Wallace and WR Robert Foster who could both be tops at their positions this season. Gotta love the wheeling and dealing to move around in the draft to get the players they want...and without giving up the farm or two first rounders to do it. Bills fans should be as ecstatic as I am because this looks like Bill Polian all over again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Bill from NYC said: John, we have known each other for years. We can all be a bit abrasive, no? My take is that this site is great because of the differing views, not in spite of them. Bill...I agree with all of that. However there is a difference between having a different take and the talking down to ppl that Bado does...... I myself have been guilty of it....I have apologized for it and moved on trying to treat ppl with respect here regardless of their opinion....you will NEVER hear Bado apologize for his treatment of others here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: you will NEVER hear Bado apologize for his treatment of others here. 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: JW I apologize if I offended you with my pretty reasonable/debatable responses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Umn...that is not a apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Umn...that is not a apology I mean maybe it's not a GREAT apology but... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Civility on this site is still considerably better than other message boards I have frequented over the years. The old BBMB was capricious and often filled with rancorous exchanges. JW seems to me to be a straight shooter. I don't believe he is influenced by Beane. It may just be that the current regime is largely competent, though they make mistakes like everyone else. Personally, I value his insight and believe he brings information we would not otherwise have. Badolbilz is also often insightful, though almost always negative and astringent. Since I tend to be optimistic, I appreciate the counterbalance. It makes me scrutinize my own positions, though I don't often change them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I mean maybe it's not a GREAT apology but... Its a covered dig at JW.......its a non apology apology I mean....JW is a big boy and doesnt need me defending him.....I am just saying that you dont have to be an ass just because you have football knowledge which Bado obviously does I know lots of smart football poster's that DONT have to be an ass to get their opinion across 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Civility on this site is still considerably better than other message boards I have frequented over the years. The old BBMB was capricious and often filled with rancorous exchanges. JW seems to me to be a straight shooter. I don't believe he is influenced by Beane. It may just be that the current regime is largely competent, though they make mistakes like everyone else. Personally, I value his insight and believe he brings information we would not otherwise have. Badolbilz is also often insightful, though almost always negative and astringent. Since I tend to be optimistic, I appreciate the counterbalance. It makes me scrutinize my own positions, though I don't often change them This site used to be a LOT worse.....I feel like the mods have done a pretty good job cleaning it up in that regard. Kudos to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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