Reed83HOF Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/25/report-texans-open-to-trading-jadeveon-clowney/ Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported on Thursday that the Texans are open to trading linebacker Jadeveon Clowney. Clowney has not signed his tender yet and a report earlier this month indicated the two sides are not close in talks regarding a long-term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) in the 10 threads on this already, everyone seems to hate him (just another Mario, overpriced, injured, all potential no real game). i couldnt disagree more. Sign him, draft an OL in the first, and our lines are ready to roll. Edited April 25, 2019 by Bill Murray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 But Ty Nsekhe already owns him 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Shaq Lawson + a Buffalo #7 in 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: in the 10 threads on this already, everyone seems to hate him (just another Mario, overpriced, injured, all potential no real game). i couldnt disagree more. Sign him, draft a LT, and our lines are ready to roll. Depending on the price I'd definitely do it. Not sure we'd be able to swing a LT though, considering Houston would be trading up for one of them. Clowney essentially is a massive upgrade to Lawson, so you can also work in what (likely little) trade comp we could get back for him. Even then -- I'd take a swap of ones and, say a 5 (for Shaq) to get Clowney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/23/3-teams-benefit-trade-texans-jadeveon-clowney/ suggests swapping 1sts w HOU and add in a mid round pick or two... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/23/3-teams-benefit-trade-texans-jadeveon-clowney/ suggests swapping 1sts w HOU and add in a mid round pick or two... I'd be on this.......like a mofo lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Id be in it for the right price. Given what the Bears and Chiefs have given up recently, I am not sure the right price is doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) This is what I posted in the Clark thread: A swap of first rounders and a 2020 second rounder isn't crazy. It is basically teh same as the value Seattle got for Clark. I know the draft chart isn't the be all end all. But 9 is worth 1350 and 23 is worth 760. The difference is 590. The number 29 pick the Chiefs traded is worth 640. Buffalo would be 50 points shy here which is the value of a late fourth rounder, and we have two of those. You could also likely work Jerry Hughes into the trade if you really wanted to and recoup some value in draft picks. Maybe you could trade Hughes to the Giants and James bettcher for a move up or a 2020 third. I would offer the Texans a swap of ones, a 2020 second rounder, and a 2019 4th. It's a fair deal for both teams and would be the same value that Seattle got for Clark. We would still have nine picks is year. It's a no brainer to me. 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: Id be in it for the right price. Given what the Bears and Chiefs have given up recently, I am not sure the right price is doable. The Chief's cost is really misleading. They did not give up a ton. See above. Edited April 25, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: in the 10 threads on this already, everyone seems to hate him (just another Mario, overpriced, injured, all potential no real game). i couldnt disagree more. Sign him, draft an OL in the first, and our lines are ready to roll. I will openly admit, I was pretty meh on this idea early when comparing him to Frank Clark. Here were my criticisms: Both Clark and Clowney were going to command high draft capital and big contracts Clark had played to the level already multiple times to warrant this, Clowney had yet to put together a season indicative of the combined expense of trade acquisition and contract. That being said, did acknowledge Clowneys youth and that his best football could very well be ahead of him, but always concerning when you are betting so big on potential versus actual resume. I felt his reputation was bigger than his production NOW UPDATE: After having felt that way, I realized I knew more about Clarks actual on field play than Clowney. I was doing to Clowney what I had criticized other posters for doing on other players, and that was over emphasizing his stats without researching context fully. So, taking my own advice I started studying Clowney a lot more, especially as rumors persisted. Clark I just watched play a lot more as I always had a soft spot for Seahawks growing up as I have family from Tacoma and was a big Steve Largent fan as a kid. I also liked Russell coming out of college a lot and wanted the Bills to draft him, so he also kept my interest in Seattle. I have seen Clowney play, just not to the degree of Clark nor with the same enthused eye. My opinion now: Go make this trade. I still DO NOT want to give up what KC gave up for Clark, however, I was always (even before) fine with swapping first round picks to get Clowney and even throwing in a 4th or 5th too if needed. My big thing was I just didn't want to over pay on the trade compensation and then also shell out a big contract. I was never against trading for Clowney, just against paying a bounty to get him. I preferred Clark over Clowney who I feel just has done more so far, and I still think that. But after watching and learning more about Clowney, I think the gap is definitely closer than I previously throught. Clowney was more disruptive than his stat sheet suggested and I think he could flourish on this current Bills team with McD. So I was overly harsh on him initially, and that was my own fault for not making the decision to learn more and making initial opinion off what I thought I knew... Go get him Beane! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 It might work out but it is always a big risk giving the monster money to a guy who has the rep of not being totally into NFL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Solomon Thomas is available from SF. Probably able to get him with less draft stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Solomon Thomas is available from SF. Probably able to get him with less draft stock. Way less, but he isn't near the player Clowney is. Thomas is like a more effective, suped up Shaq Lawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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