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All I care about is they stay away from Oliver. I don’t think he’s worth all the hype. Of course, if he’s there in the 2nd round... sure. But that’s not happening. 

 

Give me Hock, Wilkins, White in the first. 

 

In the 2nd I want a WR. Harry, AJ Brown, Butler. maybe Harmon or Hall if the previous 3 were taken. 

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10 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Good question Sky.  Yes I am a linebacker guy.  Linebackers are the unsung hero's of a D IMO.

You need good ones but great ones are a blessing.

 

Not considering the Buffalo Bills situation at all I would probably take White over Taylor.

 

Considering the 2019 Bills I wouldn't UNLESS McDermott could find a way to use Edmunds, White and Milano in some "hybrid" way to

get the most out of all of them.  If Beane selects him at #9 I won't jump out the window like some around here.  LOL.

I would say, "It looks like the Bills got one damn fine football player".

 

It would be a best player available.  People gotta realize how hard it is to play linebacker.  They have to be able to shed blocks from 230 o-linemen.  They have to be able to run down and tackle speedy running backs and also not get juked by jiggerbug types.  They have to take big fullbacks to the ground. They have to stay with receiving running backs and tight ends all over the field.  They have to be able to defend slot receivers in the short zones.  Most important, they have to figure out what the play is, where the ball is going and sniff out deception on plays.  They are the primary ones that play-calling is trying to neutralize.

 

Remember that the offense can substitute and put in players who are strong in one area (think, big FB, good pass catching RB, fast outside runner, shifty block follower) BUT the LB is pretty much going to be the same guy.  Always 2 or 3 on the field.  Many defensive players have to do fewer things.  An 'EDGE" player just rushes the passer and even most ignores the "setting of the edge" to turn a running play inside.  You CAN get an incomplete DE to do only that and can draft one in the later round.(Jaylon Fergenson)

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, purple haze said:

 I think if Oliver is gone Beane will trade down.  I don't think he would take Hockenson at 9.

i think so too. at that point i'd have to figure one of my top guys will slide to around the 15 spot so....

 

at 9 i would expect a call from elway who is looking to prevent cincy, miami and possibly wash. from trading with us and grabbing lock.

i give denver no.9 and a 7th for a 3rd. then...i trade to 15 with wash. for a 2nd.

 

depending on how things fall, i'm thinking sweat may just drop that far. if not...wilkins or lawrence could be the pick. j. williams, dillard and hock are also possibilities.

i'm guessing if the one guy beane would stand pat at 9 for is gone, he may think it best to gather a pick or 2.

 

if i had to bet money on what i think they'll do, i'd have to believe they would prefer to actually have extra picks. the above giving us a 2nd and 3rd along with a top 15 player would work nicely.

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14 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

1. Oliver

2. TJ Hockenson 

3. Jonah Williams 

....it will be one of these 3

Agree 💯

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Realistic possibilities only ... who I want?

 

Oliver

Jonah Williams

Sweat (depending what the team docs think about his heart)

Jawaan Taylor

Burns

Hockenson

Ford

 

Didn't put much thought into that, but that's my quick thoughts.

 

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4 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

i think so too. at that point i'd have to figure one of my top guys will slide to around the 15 spot so....

 

at 9 i would expect a call from elway who is looking to prevent cincy, miami and possibly wash. from trading with us and grabbing lock.

i give denver no.9 and a 7th for a 3rd. then...i trade to 15 with wash. for a 2nd.

 

depending on how things fall, i'm thinking sweat may just drop that far. if not...wilkins or lawrence could be the pick. j. williams, dillard and hock are also possibilities.

i'm guessing if the one guy beane would stand pat at 9 for is gone, he may think it best to gather a pick or 2.

 

if i had to bet money on what i think they'll do, i'd have to believe they would prefer to actually have extra picks. the above giving us a 2nd and 3rd along with a top 15 player would work nicely.

I could rock with your scenario.  An extra 2nd and 3rd would definitely lead me to think a trade back into the 1st was coming.

 

i don't know if Sweat is still on Beane's radar due to the health issue.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, purple haze said:

I could rock with your scenario.  An extra 2nd and 3rd would definitely lead me to think a trade back into the 1st was coming.

 

i don't know if Sweat is still on Beane's radar due to the health issue.

 

 

IMO our biggest NEED is pass rusher. I know DT is a biggie, but there's a lot of biggies to choose from. I think Mcbeane realizes the need for 2 good ends and is looking toward the future here. I hope we draft 2.... Montez Sweat and O.Ximines or find a 2nd DE gem later. IE. maybe a Max Crosby?

Maybe they double down with Sweat and Ferguson?

 

I dare anyone to name the last 2 outstanding ends we've had at one time. I believe this front office will finally make it happen. I think they are looking at maybe extending Hughes next year, but shedding Murphy's deal as well as replacing Lorax.

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18 hours ago, gjv001 said:

My perfect draft would be Williams at 9 and then we move back into round one for either Hockensen or Metcalf.

 

If the Bills want Hockensen they have to draft him somewhere before 12. He’s not dropping to the bottom of the 1st.

 

Metcalf, on the other hand, I think is a very real possibility of landing in the 20-25 area. If the Bills like him they could move back into the 1st and snag him.

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4 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

IMO our biggest NEED is pass rusher. I know DT is a biggie, but there's a lot of biggies to choose from. I think Mcbeane realizes the need for 2 good ends and is looking toward the future here. I hope we draft 2.... Montez Sweat and O.Ximines or find a 2nd DE gem later. IE. maybe a Max Crosby?

Maybe they double down with Sweat and Ferguson?

 

I dare anyone to name the last 2 outstanding ends we've had at one time. I believe this front office will finally make it happen. I think they are looking at maybe extending Hughes next year, but shedding Murphy's deal as well as replacing Lorax.

I hear you, but if the Bills can get consistent pressure up the middle that will get Hughes a lot of sacks.  Murphy and Shaq would get theirs too.  Hughes misses a lot of sacks because QBs have room to step up in the pocket.

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26 minutes ago, purple haze said:

I hear you, but if the Bills can get consistent pressure up the middle that will get Hughes a lot of sacks.  Murphy and Shaw would get their too.  Hughes misses a lot of sacks because QBs have room to step up in the pocket.

yeah i know you're right and i would be very happy with oliver. my head is swimming at this point. i've probably pondered 100 different scenarios and looked at 100 different bios and read 100 different mocks.  onebillslive in 10 min.        40 more hours....brutal

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If Hockenson is taken by the Bills at 9,does all those wonderful things on offense...why would he be playing special teams?

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2 minutes ago, Georgie said:

If Hockenson is taken by the Bills at 9,does all those wonderful things on offense...why would he be playing special teams?

TE’s play on special teams typically. I guess if he is taken that high he most likely wouldn’t. But he’s an option until eliminated. 

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