Reed83HOF Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 You have to give the Seattle GM credit-they lock up Wilson and now have all these picks-they lose a guy who although productive does not appear to be worth 21-22 mill a year IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 SONOFA! Yeah, too high a price.. dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: 29 is more a primo 2nd than Top 10 1st rounder. Who would the Bills have drafted at 29 as good as Clark? And by the way, Clark was a 2nd round draft pick. You can find talented guys in the late first or even in round 2 or later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, WMDman said: Why not just keep Ford? Clark is a better player. He plays with power speed and length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'll have to look at what the Chiefs gave up again. Did they just give up more for Clark than the Bears gave up last year for Mack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, MJS said: And by the way, Clark was a 2nd round draft pick. You can find talented guys in the late first or even in round 2 or later. Primarily from character concerns and the DV stuff IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: If the bills had 29 they would have made the same deal. I doubt it- he doesn’t fit the culture and price tag too steep to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No way beano would or should have traded a first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEraBills said: I'll have to look at what the Chiefs gave up again. Did they just give up more for Clark than the Bears gave up last year for Mack? No. The Bears gave their 1st in 2019 and 2020, a 3rd in 2020 and a 6th in 2019 I think. Chiefs gave 2019 1st, 2020 2nd, and swapped 3rds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Couple of things: Thank god Bills didnt make this trade. Thats a lot of draft capital and money, and with a pretty good defense already, this was WAY too much for us to pay. WTF are the Chiefs doing? They just traded a first round pick, next years 2nd (main comp they got from Dee was a 2nd this year) and a swap of thirds for Frank Clark and will pay him MORE money than they would have payed Ford. In what world does this make sense for the Chiefs? Clark > Ford, but the difference is NOT this dramatic. This is as puzzling as giving Sammy $16M last year when they already had Hill, Kelce, Conley, and Hunt as weapons for Mahomes. This trade may kill all ability to get Clowney, at least for us. No way Beane trades anything close to this for Clowney and also pays him. If Houston would entertain a swap of firsts, sure, I can see Beane being at the table. But not trading away a first all together and a 2nd and future picks. NO WAY. wondering the same thing..... IMO ford+1st rounder this year and 2nd rounder next year is significantly more valuable than Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Beano probably would have offered 40 and maybe next years second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Primarily from character concerns and the DV stuff IIRC he was a borderline 1st rounder imo, not a surefire guy. I was surprised he didn’t go lower than the 2nd with the off field. His college career was good but not great. Jmo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Couple of things: Thank god Bills didnt make this trade. Thats a lot of draft capital and money, and with a pretty good defense already, this was WAY too much for us to pay. WTF are the Chiefs doing? They just traded a first round pick, next years 2nd (main comp they got from Dee was a 2nd this year) and a swap of thirds for Frank Clark and will pay him MORE money than they would have payed Ford. In what world does this make sense for the Chiefs? Clark > Ford, but the difference is NOT this dramatic. This is as puzzling as giving Sammy $16M last year when they already had Hill, Kelce, Conley, and Hunt as weapons for Mahomes. This trade may kill all ability to get Clowney, at least for us. No way Beane trades anything close to this for Clowney and also pays him. If Houston would entertain a swap of firsts, sure, I can see Beane being at the table. But not trading away a first all together and a 2nd and future picks. NO WAY. While I agree with you, I would’ve kept Ford as well, the word is that the chiefs don’t believe Ford can play 4-3 end while Clark is one of the best in the league. If that’s really the case, I guess I understand this a bit more than my initial reaction. They know More about Fords ability than we do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Maybe this says more about tereek hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Surprised. Really thought they would have stayed away with the previous history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: wondering the same thing..... IMO ford+1st rounder this year and 2nd rounder next year is significantly more valuable than Clark. Comes down to what they want. If Houston wants to move up that would bring Buffalo into it. Swap 1s next year 2? Could be the ticket. Seattle needed more picks. Houston has a full set of picks but may want to move up for a better Oline prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, MJS said: Nobody, but then they also can develop their own draft picks and not have to pay him a mega deal for 4-5 more years. 10 minutes ago, MJS said: And by the way, Clark was a 2nd round draft pick. You can find talented guys in the late first or even in round 2 or later. I understand your POV on this completely. But KC is on the cusp of competeting for a championship. They're striking while the iron is hot and their franchise QB is on a rookie contract. They don't have the time to take a chance on a diamond in the rough in the later rounds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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