Mister Defense Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Josh Allen looks like the Bills quarterback of the future, finally. And the Bills have given him better wide receivers and offensive lineman. Allen looked good without a legitimate running game, without an adequate offensive line, and with very little production from the tight ends. Hard to argue that these areas were not team weaknesses last year. Ditto for the Bills short passing game. Hockenson is an excellent run blocker and high quality physical receiver (760 yards, last year, 15.5 per catch). If he is as good as he seems he will have a significant impact in all three areas. It is hard to imagine that another player, right now, could have more of an impact than TJ Hockenson. As Gronkowski leaves, one of the most important players in the Patriots' success, we get a similar player. Edited April 22, 2019 by Mister Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I wouldn't mind the pick especially if there is a run on the dline talent. Ideally Bills trade back a few spots and still get him but I won't be greedy. Otherwise take Dline and then maybe trade back up for Fant or Metcalf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I would put Fant and Metcalf in the same category of “less than desirable hands”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I would put Fant and Metcalf in the same category of “less than desirable hands”. Agreed. While I’d prefer others at 9, if he’s the pick, I completely understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: Josh Allen looks like the Bills quarterback of the future, finally. And the Bills have given him better wide receivers and offensive lineman. Allen looked good without a legitimate running game, without an adequate offensive line, and with very little production from the tight ends. Hard to argue that these areas were team weaknesses last year. Ditto for the Bills short passing game. Hockenson is an excellent run blocker and high quality physical receiver (760 yards, last year, 15.5 per catch). If he is as good as he seems he will have a significant impact in all three areas. It is hard to imagine that another player, right now, could have more of an impact than TJ Hockenson. As Gronkowski leaves, one of the most important players in the Patriots' success, we get a similar player. I would love to see them take Hockenson. TE is a difference maker position, the right guy can force a defense to make all sorts of unpleasant choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I would be very Happy. Just Do It. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I want him at 9 if he is still there. A week ago I would have said there is an 80% to 90% chance he is there. Sounds like it is 50/50 now. Bills better have a plan c since there is a good chance Hock and Oliver are not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I wouldn't hate the pick but he's not my best scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 As I have said for the last few years, Hockenson is an aberration, a unicorn, a 4th dimension. Others will back me up on this but I’ve been scouting him since 10th grade. It’s nice that you came up with this profound thread...welcome to the party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: As I have said for the last few years, Hockenson is an aberration, a unicorn, a 4th dimension. Others will back me up on this but I’ve been scouting him since 10th grade. It’s nice that you came up with this profound thread...welcome to the party. Been busy, and while paying a little attention to the draft players, today was one of the first times I have had some time to read about Hockenson. And frankly, as a long time Bills fan, hard to get excited for a tight end so I haven't been interested. To me, 1983 pick, Tony Hunter, a first round tight end, is still a key reference point. He played two years for the Bills. As Daniel Jeremiah said in his evaluation: "Hockenson is at his best in the run game. He rag-dolls defensive ends and linebackers. He had multiple pancake blocks in every game I studied. Overall, Hockenson is one of the best blocking tight ends I've ever evaluated, and he is dependable in the passing game. He's a Day 1 impact player at the next level." The Bills went after free agents to make their offense and Allen better, and shockingly, even making a play for Antonio Brown. So the Bills are looking for impact players on offense. Hockenson is the player the Bills' offense needs, like Cornelius Bennett was the guy the defense needed in 1987. Hockenson can have a similar impact. Imagine Josh Allen and Hockenson in the same backfield. Edited April 23, 2019 by Mister Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I'm beginning to think he may be the pick, consider, the Bills have met with, worked out every top prospect but Hockenson, why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 On NFL Live McShay just had him going to Jax at 7. I have no idea how this I’d going to go...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: I'm beginning to think he may be the pick, consider, the Bills have met with, worked out every top prospect but Hockenson, why is that? I don't know--what is your theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Agreed. While I’d prefer others at 9, if he’s the pick, I completely understand why. I would not understand why they might take either Metcalf or especially Fant at 9. Neither are good safe picks there, IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: I want him at 9 if he is still there. A week ago I would have said there is an 80% to 90% chance he is there. Sounds like it is 50/50 now. Bills better have a plan c since there is a good chance Hock and Oliver are not there. Hocks not going before us. Lucky us if he does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I would not understand why they might take either Metcalf or especially Fant at 9. Neither are good safe picks there, IMHO. I’m with ya oldtimer! Neither have consistent enough hands for my liking. One thing that I’ve stood by since we drafted josh allen: we need WRs and TEs that have great hands. Size and speed means nothing if you can’t catch the ball. Not to say Metcalf and Fant can’t catch, but I’m just not impressed with their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: As I have said for the last few years, Hockenson is an aberration, a unicorn, a 4th dimension. Others will back me up on this but I’ve been scouting him since 10th grade. It’s nice that you came up with this profound thread...welcome to the party. I was on the fence, but I’m now firmly on the Hockwagon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I would not understand why they might take either Metcalf or especially Fant at 9. Neither are good safe picks there, IMHO. You are assuming they are trying to take safe picks. What if they are not? See the 2018 Bills 1st round picks. Neither were safe and one (Allen) was one of the most polarizing prospects at his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would be really happy if he was the pick. He, Oliver and Jonah Williams are the three guys I like that I see as realistic options at #9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would be thrilled with the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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