Buffalo716 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position&position=OL just 6 years ago, Cooper and Womack went top 10 as G’s. but If you had to choose between Jonah and TJ, who do you go with? I just really want a difference maker at TE. Much like receiver, we have a bunch of 2, 3, & 4 guys. We need a 1. Of course there are some guards who don’t pan out... but about 20% of all top 10 guard picks all pro... that is very high rate... compared to 5% at QB if it’s those 2 I think that’s a hard decision. Jonah maybe doesn’t have elite measurables but he is a technician. Should be better than Dawkins day 1 but I would prolly go Hock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position&position=OL just 6 years ago, Cooper and Womack went top 10 as G’s. but If you had to choose between Jonah and TJ, who do you go with? I just really want a difference maker at TE. Much like receiver, we have a bunch of 2, 3, & 4 guys. We need a 1. I have a hard time drafting OL this high, always have always will. That being said, I did like Nelson a lot last year; however that was 1 player out of the last 20+ years I followed the draft. The bust potential in the draft is high and rarely do you see rookie OL ready on day 1 to play anymore. When you are drafting in the top 10-12ish I want to see those players starting, JMO 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I hope we get him but i think Sternberger and Knox would be pretty good gets. I like Sternberger in the third or even late 2nd. With our first pick I want an impact player at a premium position... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, JM57 said: Yeah definitely more athletic. It's funny some of the write-ups I've read on Hockenson have a hard time finding real negatives for him on the film, maybe some small stuff to clean up, but they're just like "his athletic numbers aren't great." Now I won't call myself an expert but if you're breaking down film of a guy and all you can find to be down on is that he doesn't test off the charts at the combine then you've got my attention. Give me a player whose film is so good you can't even complain about it LOL Don’t get me wrong at all. I think Hock will be really good. Has a higher floor and will most likely be good at worst. However just how some people feel about Metcalf, I say swing for the fences. If your going with potential, I think Fant has a higher ceiling. Of course I could be wrong. But I’d take Fant, back in the 20s and be glad I traded back multiple times for multiple extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. Giving me room to move back up if needed, or stay where we are. Because I feel this draft class has a lot of really good talent at our positions of most need. I say capitalize on more picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think the Bills take Williams if he’s available and then trade back up into the late first to get their D-lineman. TE after that. Signing Yeldon means there is less need to grab a TE earlier. RBs will be Allen’s bread and butter in between bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I'd be willing to bet a bunch of dollars that John Murphy doesn't know Jack Schitt about who the Bills might draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskerTough Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: The Bills organization has NEVER had a dynamic TE in their history. I think it's time for that to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: This. Not to mention he’s just a fat stupid idiot that has no idea what he’s talking about. He was right in the Allen thing. No crap. So we’re a million other idiots that generally don’t have a clue. But it’s not hard to figure out. Fat? Wow. What does his body shape have to do with it? Unacceptable to make comments like this in this day and age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, RiotAct said: even my grandmother? Especially your grandmother!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Was Brian Bulaga worth a #9? I'd say no. He's somewhere between average and above average. 13 minutes ago, TaskerTough said: Only a Bills fan could think that Riemersma ever exceeded "average"! Edited April 22, 2019 by dave mcbride 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Fat? Wow. What does his body shape have to do with it? Unacceptable to make comments like this in this day and age. I don’t care. If you’re offended, get off the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 What the #@! does John Murphy know??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: What the #@! does John Murphy know??? Nothing. That’s the point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Logic said: I like Hock a lot, but for what it's worth, Noah Fant had TWICE as many receiving touchdowns over the last two seasons as Hock. Hock -- 9. Fant -- 18 (!). True but in 2018, our most reason sample season, Fant had 1 more TD (7 to 6), 10 less catches, and 241 less yards than Hockenson. I prefer the guy who never has to come off the field. Hock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: True but in 2018, our most reason sample season, Fant had 1 more TD (7 to 6), 10 less catches, and 241 less yards than Hockenson. I prefer the guy who never has to come off the field. Hock! Hock is Metzelaars to as Fant is McKeller, I agree Hock the better all around guy to have and if choose between the two it's the first. Edited April 22, 2019 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: What the #@! does John Murphy know??? I thought Canadians were supposed to be polite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I thought Canadians were supposed to be polite? Not when it comes to John Murphy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I'd say no. He's somewhere between average and above average. Only a Bills fan could think that Riemersma ever exceeded "average"! Strongly disagree. I thought Jay was a really borderline good TE for us. Of course, now I just looked up the stats and he was the definition of average. Amazing how you remember things when you’re young. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Tight end is a fair blocker most of the time and a surprise receiver the rest of the time. That job can be done by committee and you can always substitute to get a mismatch on the play that YOU as the offense are going to call. If you want a better tight end, draft one each hear in the 4th round, OR look for good athletes playing some other position (OT, FB, QB, ruby). Edited April 22, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: So the Bills agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 You can't look at merely receiving production. The reason Hock is rated higher is because he can block too. That is a huge advantage. The D does not know whether he is staying in to block or running a route or a combination of the 2. This opens things up in both the run and the pass game. It also gives the D more to think about. A good all around TE can stay on the field and force defenders to guess what is coming. Not projecting whether a pass or a run is coming is what good offenses do. A good multidimensional TE is one effective way to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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