dpberr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 In theory, why couldn't the Bills have a real grass field? What's the science that says it wouldn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: I played on Gravel with no shoes .. You must have had a helmet to protect that pretty face, correct? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The design of the stadium makes it very hard. The stadium is built 50-75′ down into bedrock which makes creating a new grass field more difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Obvioulsy the sample size in this article is way to small as is the margin of error for the sample size to actually conclude anything here. The study is very incomplete and reduced to mere talking point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, PUNT750 said: The study is simple. They are just comparing the NFL fields that use artificial turf and the injuries ratios. NO factors like wind, rain, cold etc. Of those teams Buffalo with A-Turf is rated the worst. What can I say!!! Cincinnati uses Shaw Sports Momentum Pro turf and obviously it falls between Dallas and Buffalo!!! New England uses Field Turf and the same is true for them!! The “simplicity” of the study is the problem! You say so yourself that no other factors are taken into consideration. In other words, the study did not control for a single variable! From the standpoint of empirical research this renders the findings, essentially, useless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Given the tiny sample size (one stadium each) and the failure to control for extraneous variables (weather, etc.), I don't see where they get their 95% confidence figure. And the thread title is vague and misleading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Solution.... Build a downtown stadium, with PSLs and all, leaving Erie County out of the future turf decision. And yeah I would be a little more upset if Erie county sent tax payers $$ to non local business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The other issue with this post is that the study being referenced used games played and practices. The quote in the OP says that the turf area will be used for 'warm-up, post-workout, and flexibility work.” So the data isn't relevant to the use of this turf for this role. If I carpet my living room in this stuff, I am not likely to duplicate the injury ratios for games/practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dpberr said: In theory, why couldn't the Bills have a real grass field? What's the science that says it wouldn't work? They certainly can do it. Just more expensive, and more expensive to maintain. As an aside, I believe most of the complaints about the field are about footing, slipping on the turf. Maybe it’s a drainage issue? Has the product been updated or improved in any way ? I’m not sure on either of those things. Edited April 22, 2019 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: It is tough to tell if the cold weather in Buffalo has put a difficult spin on the Ralph Wilson Stadium turf Exactly. I'd bet the injuries that do occur have more to do with the cold than the composition of the turf. This comparison would have to be weather-adjusted to be conclusive. Hitting a frozen field is way more painful / dangerous than when it's not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 i don't think you understand statistics. at all. although i admit that statement is based on a pretty small sample of ill informed posts. don't worry though, you are in good company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I've played on it and it is a little spongier than i thought it should be. The field house turf was worse honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, PUNT750 said: Both NY teams, Bengals, Patriots and Seattle which is kind of a Northern climate! The facts don't lie! A-Turf is bad - worse than other surfaces. AND - I love the BILLS! Spending $18 mil on training facilities is wonderful. I just don't get letting Erie County buy our field turf with a national bad reputation for injuries through a local vendor who has donated money to the County Executive over the years. Get it!!! I think you have pretty much summed things up. Terry’s moral compass seems skewed to his checkbook. Edited April 22, 2019 by iinii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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