YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) This account has a lot of tweets today about The reports from Bob McGinn (former Packers beat writer/bobmcginnfootball.com who talks to a lot of scouts and then writes a report every year). Also dropped some scores fwiw QB scores (according to NYG board) Ryan Finley 432. Gardner Minshew 423. Daniel Jones 374. Easton Stick 325. Clayton Thorson 326. Will Grier 307. Brett Rypien 288. Jarrett Stidham 279. Drew Lock 2610. Tyree Jackson 2511. Dwayne Haskins 2512. Kyler Murray 20 https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=581991 Edited April 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 interesting insights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Oof, Hock it is then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Wow... Lots of anonymous bagging out going on.. So let’s draft Oliver, Fant and Metcalf.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Wonderlic only matters when it comes to QBs. All of these QBs scored well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gugny said: Wonderlic only matters when it comes to QBs. All of these QBs scored well. I would be interested in the wonderlic score for a C and a MLB. edit: I looked up ours for fun Morse: 29 Edmunds: 22 Edited April 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I would be interested in the wonderlic score for a C and a MLB. The bar is much lower for a kick returner, but Leodis reminds us that it’s not irrelevant. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: Wonderlic only matters when it comes to QBs. All of these QBs scored well. It matters if it's crazy low. If it's like Leodis McKelvin or CJ Spiller low then it will most likely surface as it did with them. A lot of what people perceive is "instinctive" reaction are movements sped up by the ability to process seemingly basic info and be in better position to make plays. Like as a RB being able to recognize where the hole is going to be on a run play based on an observation of the defensive alignment when you already know the play and line calls. CJ clearly never knew where he was going until he got the ball.........which *sometimes* resulted in defenses over-pursuing to the expected point of contact and CJ running to daylight for huge gains somewhere else entirely.........but more often resulted in some seemingly inexplicable runs into his OL backs while the hole was on the other side of the field in All-22. Leodis was the same way in coverage. His elite speed wasn't enough to cover for his inability to recognize where the ball was going in time to react "instinctively". Edited April 22, 2019 by BADOLBILZ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Mr.........” I’d do it again” can’t be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 That stuff about San Jose State was my favorite. Ouch. Very ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: That stuff about San Jose State was my favorite. Ouch. Very ouch. How do you not have a training table? And what is a “horses” program? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: How do you not have a training table? And what is a “horses” program? It's saying horse s h i t. That's why the s and then the ------- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Logic said: It's saying horse s h i t. That's why the s and then the ------- Oh. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) I always love reading this stuff, and I'm sure there are plenty of kernels of truth. On the other side of the coin, though, is this:http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/172974292/nfl-draft-anonymous-scoutsThe Psychology of the Anonymous ScoutOne may wonder why scouts speak anonymously to the media in the first place. What's in it for them? Some believe that it's to drive draft prospects down for the benefit of their teams, though any general manager or head coach putting his draft board together based on what a bunch of guys said in a newspaper or online should probably be looking for alternate employment.... More to the point, Jeremiah believes, is the gradual diminishment of the scout in most front offices. It's not like it used to be, when super-scouts like Jack Butler, Jack Vainisi and Bill Nunn drove so much of the personnel pipeline to teams that drifted on their evaluation talent and were recognized as such. Nowadays, scouts are primarily well-traveled clerks, whose work is mere fodder for the alleged bigger brains higher up the food chain. "The media and the general public ... a quote will come out from an anonymous scout, just ripping a player, which I totally don't agree with," said Jeremiah. "I don't think that's your place to trash a kid. I don't believe in that. And the second part is, they'll get railed at for not putting their name on it. And I'm thinking, 'You do realize that if any scout puts his name on something like that, he's done. He's fired. It's over.' And he might be shut out around the league, because he has a reputation as a guy who talks to the media. So, that's not even feasible. It's not happening." It would be extremely valuable for media and fans to hear from scouts on a regular -- and regulated -- basis. It would add to the discussion of player value and projection, and it would allow those scouts who have seen their roles diminish to have a more prominent voice. Edited April 22, 2019 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I don't think it is off base to be skeptical of Metcalf and the hype surrounding him. The game of football is not being played at the combine or in the weight room. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 JJ Arcega-Whiteside is a guy who, if he was there in the third, I’d be happy with. Just seems like a poor mans AJ Green where you know you’re gonna get 50-60 catches, 800 yards, and a couple great contested TDs each year. Seens like a perfect fit for what we have right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 The only correlation wonderlic has to NFL success is for cbs and its negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Augie said: The bar is much lower for a kick returner, but Leodis reminds us that it’s not irrelevant. if not at draft time, then certainly after involvement in 40 or so kick returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I’ve been on the Oliver train for a while. I’d love him in the 4th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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