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Russell Wilson Reaches 4 Year $140 Million ($107 m guaranteed) extension with Seahawks

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3 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said:

 

I respectfully disagree.  Again, I reiterate - no athlete is worth that kind of money.  He's a decent QB, but, no.

 

Said everytime a new contract gets signed by a premier Athlete. 

 

Guess what logic says if the Seattle Seahawks are paying that then he is worth that to them Doesn’t it. 

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19 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

I think he is a good QB because he has a team to support him and the team will not be as good when the money going into his pocket could fund 3-4 good players.

The salary cap continues to increase....New TV contracts are coming up...there will be plenty of money to fund 3-4 good players...plus what's the point of the 3-4 good players if your QB sucks?

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RW is a very good QB.  The guaranteed $ alone is 26.75 per year.

 

IMO I think its too much for a guy who isn't a Top 5 QB or a rising star like Mahomes. 

 

Of the $140 million extension  - $65 million signing bonus.  Not to mention what it does to their Cap.

 

Spotrac  Cap # for Seattle 

Team Signed Total 51 Cap Space
Seattle Seahawks 66 10,897,527

 

 

ACTIVE PLAYERS (66)
POS.
BASE SALARY
SIGNING BONUS
ROSTER BONUS
OPTION BONUS
WORKOUT BONUS
RESTRUC. BONUS
MISC.
DEAD CAP
CAP HIT
CAP %
Russell Wilson QB $17,000,000 $6,200,000 - - - $2,086,668 - - $25,286,668 13.25
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6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

RW is a very good QB.  The guaranteed $ alone is 26.75 per year.

 

IMO I think its too much for a guy who isn't a Top 5 QB or a rising star like Mahomes. 

 

Of the $140 million extension  - $65 million signing bonus.  Not to mention what it does to their Cap.

 

Spotrac  Cap # for Seattle 

Team Signed Total 51 Cap Space
Seattle Seahawks 66 10,897,527

 

 

ACTIVE PLAYERS (66)
POS.
BASE SALARY
SIGNING BONUS
ROSTER BONUS
OPTION BONUS
WORKOUT BONUS
RESTRUC. BONUS
MISC.
DEAD CAP
CAP HIT
CAP %
Russell Wilson QB $17,000,000 $6,200,000 - - - $2,086,668 - - $25,286,668 13.25

won't matter much as cap keeps increasing and will even more when TV contracts are renewed and Amazon jumps in with online streaming

50 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

They will never reach the SB again paying one player that much...

why not?

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1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Man only had 35 tds to pair with his 7 int’s 🤦🏼‍♂️😂😂

 

Yikes, don’t poop in my seats 

Fool said what???  😄

I have a strong spidey feeling they just fuked up.

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8 minutes ago, nucci said:

won't matter much as cap keeps increasing and will even more when TV contracts are renewed and Amazon jumps in with online streaming

 

 

and soon they will be able to construct a robot QB for less $    :lol:

 

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47 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said:

 

I respectfully disagree.  Again, I reiterate - no athlete is worth that kind of money.  He's a decent QB, but, no.

 

Oh this tired trope.

The owners wouldn't be paying that much if they didn't feel athletes were worth it.

Elite athletes generate revenue.

They generate more revenue than they are paid.

There's a great article on LeBron James from the last time he went back to Cleveland 

It charted Cleveland and Miami's team revenue with and without LeBron at both destination s

They showed the correlation the immediate impact of losing and gaining him on each team was over $75million net profit/loss

I'm sure the Lakers and cavs would see similar numbers from last year.

 

I'm sure you have some moral rant that nobody is worth that much, but guess what??

Tickets, marketing, advertising, etc all generate that much money for a team/ owner.

If you are so morally against athletes earning that much $$ the only way to stop it is stop supporting professional sports by boycotting ESPN/etc coverage, all forums, games, TV game broadcasts, merch and such.

If you are still involved and following a team then you contribute to the ever rising $$ they make.

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

I think he is a good QB because he has a team to support him and the team will not be as good when the money going into his pocket could fund 3-4 good players.

 

Odd opinion to have, since Wilson has continued his elite play while his team butchered their RB and offensive line situations in recent years. Wilson has what, the 2nd highest QB rating of all time? sorry you just sound like an uniformed hater.

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If Josh Allen turns into the next Russell Wilson he too will eat up 11%-13% of the Bills salary cap. Sorry but that's the reality of landing a franchise QB.

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5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

and soon they will be able to construct a robot QB for less $    :lol:

 

which will help with the cap

3 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Oh this tired trope.

The owners wouldn't be paying that much if they didn't feel athletes were worth it.

Elite athletes generate revenue.

They generate more revenue than they are paid.

There's a great article on LeBron James from the last time he went back to Cleveland 

It charted Cleveland and Miami's team revenue with and without LeBron at both destination s

They showed the correlation the immediate impact of losing and gaining him on each team was over $75million net profit/loss

I'm sure the Lakers and cavs would see similar numbers from last year.

 

I'm sure you have some moral rant that nobody is worth that much, but guess what??

Tickets, marketing, advertising, etc all generate that much money for a team/ owner.

If you are so morally against athletes earning that much $$ the only way to stop it is stop supporting professional sports by boycotting ESPN/etc coverage, all forums, games, TV game broadcasts, merch and such.

If you are still involved and following a team then you contribute to the ever rising $$ they make.

excellent points

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2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

At that price I'll raise my hand saying they should have traded him IF (and that is a big IF) they got a good offer for he is not worth $35 million a year.  

 

lol wat. yes he is

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

Ahhhh...memories of the regime that was here for 3 years and never had a QB plan...good times.

Remember when he said he was a “riverboat gambler” for moving up two spots and taking TJ. Dohh!

 

Saw EJ mentioned as a bust last night on NFL network as a bust and I think the guy was a former scout said he had him as a fifth rounder and another GM had him as a TE. 

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25 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Oh this tired trope.

The owners wouldn't be paying that much if they didn't feel athletes were worth it.

Elite athletes generate revenue.

They generate more revenue than they are paid.

There's a great article on LeBron James from the last time he went back to Cleveland 

It charted Cleveland and Miami's team revenue with and without LeBron at both destination s

They showed the correlation the immediate impact of losing and gaining him on each team was over $75million net profit/loss

I'm sure the Lakers and cavs would see similar numbers from last year.

 

I'm sure you have some moral rant that nobody is worth that much, but guess what??

Tickets, marketing, advertising, etc all generate that much money for a team/ owner.

If you are so morally against athletes earning that much $$ the only way to stop it is stop supporting professional sports by boycotting ESPN/etc coverage, all forums, games, TV game broadcasts, merch and such.

If you are still involved and following a team then you contribute to the ever rising $$ they make.

 

Basketball and baseball players get paid too damn much IMO.  

 

what really makes me laugh with Basketball players...  they take "time off"  as it suits them.

 

If I pay to go to a game I better see a top paid player out there giving 100% and no excuses.  If he's not playing he better have a serious enough injury. 

 

29 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said:

If Josh Allen turns into the next Russell Wilson he too will eat up 11%-13% of the Bills salary cap. Sorry but that's the reality of landing a franchise QB.

IF he does ....  He's young and would then be worthy of bringing  the team to greatness and keeping them there. 

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Eventually a team is going to cave and go % of the Cap. 

 

5 year deal 15%. With 5% guaranteed each year 

 

then again might not happen until players can start getting fully guaranteed contracts. 

 

Also when it comes to QB it is a very easy decision. When you have a top one he doesn’t leave the team. 

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IMO they reached a fair price for the guy-he is not overpaid and definitely not underpaid now. A year ago GB signed Rodgers for 134 over 4 so today it looks like GB got a nice price. 

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18 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Basketball and baseball players get paid too damn much IMO.  

 

what really makes me laugh with Basketball players...  they take "time off"  as it suits them.

 

If I pay to go to a game I better see a top paid player out there giving 100% and no excuses.  If he's not playing he better have a serious enough injury. 

 

IF he does ....  He's young and would then be worthy of bringing  the team to greatness and keeping them there. 

 

You realize that many times coaches rest their best players to prevent injury

They don't do it as it suits them

They also play a ridiculously grueling schedule

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

I think he is a good QB because he has a team to support him and the team will not be as good when the money going into his pocket could fund 3-4 good players.

 

They totally dismantled his offensive line. They let his best receiver walk, they traded his all pro running back and replaced him by a committee of averageness and then they started to rebuild his dominant defense around him. Russell just keeps performing and keeps on winning.

 

He isn't an "elite" Quarterback in my view.... at least not yet..... but he is very, very good. He is somewhere around the 5th - 7th best QB in the league and most of those guys ahead of him (Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben possibly Rivers...) are much older than Wilson. He is as good as anyone else in the league.  

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1 hour ago, Wo-Bah said:

 

I respectfully disagree.  Again, I reiterate - no athlete is worth that kind of money.  He's a decent QB, but, no.

Respectfully, I completely disagree.  Who should get the billions of dollars generated from the nfl? The owners??? These guys makes billions for schools and old guys in college and don’t get a dime back.  Now they pay a sport where your career can end on one play and don’t have a guaranteed contracts.  They deserve every penny.

 

and I was slow on the Wilson train.  I thought he was just a guy along for the ride with a great defense.  But even though he is a total weirdo, he is awesome.  And he does it with average, no high draft pick receivers behind a sucky oline.  The great ones elevate those around him and he does that.  

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11 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

I think he is a good QB because he has a team to support him and the team will not be as good when the money going into his pocket could fund 3-4 good players.

He has one of the worst rosters in football!! He took them to the playoffs last year. 

 

This is was an easy decision for Seattle. He’s a top 5 QB that just turned 30. He’s a guy that you make a Seahawk for life.

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

RW is a very good QB.  The guaranteed $ alone is 26.75 per year.

 

IMO I think its too much for a guy who isn't a Top 5 QB or a rising star like Mahomes. 

 

Of the $140 million extension  - $65 million signing bonus.  Not to mention what it does to their Cap.

 

Spotrac  Cap # for Seattle 

Team Signed Total 51 Cap Space
Seattle Seahawks 66 10,897,527

 

 

ACTIVE PLAYERS (66)
POS.
BASE SALARY
SIGNING BONUS
ROSTER BONUS
OPTION BONUS
WORKOUT BONUS
RESTRUC. BONUS
MISC.
DEAD CAP
CAP HIT
CAP %
Russell Wilson QB $17,000,000 $6,200,000 - - - $2,086,668 - - $25,286,668 13.25

RW is a top 5 qb.  His oline sucks.  His receivers are a bunch of whatever guys.  And they run the ball a lot.  In another offense, RW could have monster numbers.  

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Posted (edited)

The thing is-not only is QB the hardest position in the NFL but it is also the hardest position to master in all of sports. Very few people can do it at Wilson's level. 

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Wilson is an excellent QB and should be paid with the elite.

 

That said I wonder if teams will try to develop a second option that will be cheaper.  The reality is that when you pay one position that much, you need to go cheaper at other positions. You need a great, well paid QB who can carry a team or a very good, cheap first contract QB you can build around.  It will be a mistake to pay a top rated to an average QB.  

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1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said:

Wilson is an excellent QB and should be paid with the elite.

 

That said I wonder if teams will try to develop a second option that will be cheaper.  The reality is that when you pay one position that much, you need to go cheaper at other positions. You need a great, well paid QB who can carry a team or a very good, cheap first contract QB you can build around.  It will be a mistake to pay a top rated to an average QB.  

 

Indeed - Derek Carr, Dak Prescott and Matt Stafford are the difficult contract decisions. Russell Wilson is a no brainer.

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