Tenhigh Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: QBs "THROW"? I like it. My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something. My off the boat Irish buddy loves the old "why do they call it football, it should be called throwball". I then tell him soccer should be called kickball. Ugliness always ensues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does. LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will. They keep the prima donnas in check, the DT's in check. MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone. Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers. Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down. $42.76 on the LB's. The new replay rules are going to change things a bit I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does. LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will. They keep the prima donnas in check, the DT's in check. MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone. Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers. Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down. $42.76 on the LB's. The last truly superior LB who fits the profile you say was probably Ray Lewis. Luke Kuechly is probably the best in today's NFL, but I would hardly describe him as someone who dominates like the old days. Like it or not, the NFL is changing. The traditional running game is a complimentary piece to offenses now. Not a primary method of attack. And because of that, defenses must adapt. The big and powerful MLB who blows through linemen with ease, then stuffs runners in the hole... he's becoming a dinosaur. Teams need guys who can sprint from sideline to sideline, cover RBs and TEs in the passing game, chase down scrambling QBs, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: The new replay rules are going to change things a bit I think? Yes, I think many children will be born in the glory of those rules and others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Wish granted. Lb Corp in today’s game is two guys much of the time in a 4-3 base nickel package. Tre and Milano are reasonably good. ~250 tackles 12 turnovers between them. Both under 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just don’t call me SHIRLEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jpsredemption said: It’ll take a ton of improvement for Edmunds to be dominant. Overlooked was a very average to below average rookie season on his end. He got a free pass with so much of the focus on offense but he needs to step up. I think you need to understand what you are watching and the scheme better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Somewhere up thread someone said that Edmunds wasn't great and his lack of production was overshadowed by the piss-poor Offense. I disagree. Edmunds showed real Rookie issues in the first half of the season. But just as fairly, he also showed tremendous improvement in his second half of the season. Let's take a look at his stats: First 8 games: Tackles: 62 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 7 - Forced Fumbles: 2 - INTs: 0 Last 7 games: Tackles: 59 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 5 - Forced Fumbles: 0 - INTs: 2 (Didn't play against Chicago) To take that a step further in his last 4 games, he really started to jump off the screen with development: Tackles: 39 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 3 Forced Fumbles: (Still 0 obviously) - INTs: 2 Looking at his production that way, he started out a little hot, then cooled, then slowly went up for a few games and then shot up at the end of the year, where you want your 1st and 2nd year guys to show the best improvement. Does he need to grow / mature into a better LB? Yes, of course he does. Was he so bad that I think he needs to make a Herculean leap to be great? No, IMO he does not. To that end, IF and it's a big IF, he continues to develop at the year's end trajectory, his second year should be quite good and probably his second half of this year we'll see what Beane and McD saw when they drafted him: a STUD LB that can anchor the Defense for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Dear god, i like football. Because i like football, I want a very good middle linebacker I also don't care if our young gun gets kicked to the outside, I want a good MLB call me fm stupid 4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Somewhere up thread someone said that Edmunds wasn't great and his lack of production was overshadowed by the piss-poor Offense. I disagree. Edmunds showed real Rookie issues in the first half of the season. But just as fairly, he also showed tremendous improvement in his second half of the season. Let's take a look at his stats: First 8 games: Tackles: 62 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 7 - Forced Fumbles: 2 - INTs: 0 Last 7 games: Tackles: 59 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 5 - Forced Fumbles: 0 - INTs: 2 (Didn't play against Chicago) To take that a step further in his last 4 games, he really started to jump off the screen with development: Tackles: 39 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 3 Forced Fumbles: (Still 0 obviously) - INTs: 2 Looking at his production that way, he started out a little hot, then cooled, then slowly went up for a few games and then shot up at the end of the year, where you want your 1st and 2nd year guys to show the best improvement. Does he need to grow / mature into a better LB? Yes, of course he does. Was he so bad that I think he needs to make a Herculean leap to be great? No, IMO he does not. To that end, IF and it's a big IF, he continues to develop at the year's end trajectory, his second year should be quite good and probably his second half of this year we'll see what Beane and McD saw when they drafted him: a STUD LB that can anchor the Defense for years to come. I like him well enough, but I don't need no stinkin' badgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Everybody knows that the end who they split out from the line of scimmage is called the "split end". Would Woodie Hays lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 minute ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Everybody knows that the end who they split out from the line of scimmage is called the "split end". Would Woodie Hays lie? Have you been waiting since 1978 to tell that, buckeye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Have you been waiting since 1978 to tell that, buckeye? Actually, I spent a couple of years in Anne Arbor, so Shirley don't call me a buckeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 If you could land a plane as well as Kareem, I'd let your nephew hang out in a Turkish prizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Yes, I think many children will be born in the glory of those rules and others? Yep- they wont know any better. Evolution at its finest! 41 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Wish granted. Lb Corp in today’s game is two guys much of the time in a 4-3 base nickel package. Tre and Milano are reasonably good. ~250 tackles 12 turnovers between them. Both under 25. Milano was having a monster season- lets hope more of the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Yep- they wont know any better. Evolution at its finest! Milano was having a monster season- lets hope more of the same Dear god I ain't gonna hope for *****, anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Are we going to start calling DTs PLUG? Maybe WRs should be FLANK? That would be a recycle. #Throwback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: QBs "THROW"? I like it. My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something. Your mate may have some insight into the linemen's non-football activities. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 What can you buy with $42.76? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: What can you buy with $42.76? An iPhone charger at your local Verizon store. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 If Devin White is still on the board when the Bills pick, It will be real hard for them to pass on him imo. He is a game changer much like I thought Ray Lewis would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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