2 picks in the first seems like a given to me...

[rayray808]

Trade back - Hock

Trade up - DK

 

two 1st round grabs to help our offense... lets do it

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hock should be a lock and find a way to get to Bosa as well

[BillsfaninSB]

35 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

Trade back - Hock

Trade up - DK

 

two 1st round grabs to help our offense... lets do it

 

I just don’t think Hock will get past 12.   If we truly want him we should just take him at 9. 

[Victory Formation]

Trading back for Hock is risky. I'd take him at 9, that's fine. If he's gone give me Taylor. If Taylor is gone give me Jonah. If Jonah is gone, trade down for Marquise Brown or Noah Fant.

[hjnick]

21 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Trading back for Hock is risky. I'd take him at 9, that's fine. If he's gone give me Taylor. If Taylor is gone give me Jonah. If Jonah is gone, trade down for Marquise Brown or Noah Fant.

I agree it's risky we might lose Hock if we trade back, BUT to get an additional second in return would just be too good pass up and roll the dice. AND we will still get a great player at 15 if Hock is taken before.

[mrags]

1 hour ago, mrags said:

I’ve been thinking about it a bit lately. I’ve played around with the draft pick calculator a little. Seems like a move back in the first with Washington to 15 would net us an extra 2nd rounder and a 4-5th. We might have to give up a 5th or so to really make it happen. But the team doing the trade up is the team that overpays. As we found out with Allen last year. 

 

With that said. I would live a trade back to 15. Draft Wilkins or Burns. Then package a deal with next years picks if possible to get back into the low 20s and pick the other, Wilkins or Burns. 

 

Then in the 2nd round go with Harry, AJ Brown, or Butler (in that order). 

 

if we managed to pull that off I think we would have completely fixed the DL and then the WR group this offseason for years to come. 

 

If we we still have a 3rd, go with the best TE or OL available (I have no idea who’s good here) but most likely we used that in the trade up scenario to the 1st. 

 

Same with the 4th round picks. Most likely used one in the trade but if available I’d go with the best OL available and then L.J. Scott RB out of Michigan State. 

 

After that im not sure if we’d have any picks available after our trade scenarios. But I would go with depth picks at either OL or LB. the only player that I’m aware of that I want in the late rounds would be Jacques Patrick, RB Florida St. this kid is a monster at 6’3”, 230+. Has really good speed for his size and actually seems to have good movement for his size as well. If I’m taking a flyer in a late round guy, RB is a good spot and this kid could prove some people wrong. 

I take that back. If we’ve still got a 3rd. I want Jaylon Ferguson DE from Louisiana Tech. 

[Simon Says]

5 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

Whether Beane trades down or stays put I can see him bundling some picks to move back into the end of the first to nail his 2nd must have.   With the depth on defense in this draft there will still be huge difference makers available late first early second so it will warrant the move.  

 

Preference is trade back get Hock, trade up with the extra second or 3rd and get best DT/edge available.  Draft OT, LB and RB with whatever is left.  We have enough duct tape on this oline to justify grabbing your franchise tackle next year and not this year.  Just my take. 

per the Old" draft pick chart, Bills 2nd + 3rd (720 points) = a later 1st (26-32),so yeah, Bills could afford it. At this point, with  70 guys already on the  rster, 10 picks doesn't seem "necessary" but they have  value; whether you keep  them ,trade up,trade down, or trade for future picks.

[Buffalo Junction]

53 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

 

I just don’t think Hock will get past 12.   If we truly want him we should just take him at 9. 

An interesting trade to ponder would be with GB... we give up 9 & 40, and receive 12, 30, & 76. I believe that’s a little under the 20% premium. We’d only move back a few spots, get a second player with a 5th year option, and the extra 3rd would afford us some flexibility. They’d obviously get a targeted player, but still have 3 picks in the first 3 rounds. 

 

Its going to be an interesting draft. 

[apuszczalowski]

3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Three guys with some trade value that wouldn't be terribly missed are Zay Jones, Lawson, and Shady.  Lawson is based on us either signing Ziggy or drafting in the 1st for his replacement, and replace Shady with a 3rd round RB 

How would shady not be missed? He is tje best RB on the roster currently......

If he can be replaced with a 3rd, why would someone trade something for him?

Edited April 8, 2019 by apuszczalowski

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, colin said:

we will definitely make some kind of trade, and prolly up into 1st or 2nd round, but we also need some special teams players, cuz ours suck.  i could see some young guys brought in and some of the garbage at the bottom of our roster getting sliced.

 

Have you been paying attention the last month? At least 3 of our FAs played special teams, not including the Leagues best returner but Including gunners. Housch should be fully healed. With at least 7 Draft picks, figure 4 will see action on teams, just to have a spot. All that’s left is figuring out who the PKH (Holder) is and who wins the punter job.

[eball]

5 hours ago, colin said:

we will definitely make some kind of trade, and prolly up into 1st or 2nd round, but we also need some special teams players, cuz ours suck.  i could see some young guys brought in and some of the garbage at the bottom of our roster getting sliced.

 

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Have you been paying attention the last month? At least 3 of our FAs played special teams, not including the Leagues best returner but Including gunners. Housch should be fully healed. With at least 7 Draft picks, figure 4 will see action on teams, just to have a spot. All that’s left is figuring out who the PKH (Holder) is and who wins the punter job.

 

@colin I'm totally with you.  @Chandler#81 just doesn't get it.  See my thread on how Beane absolutely must focus on ST in the draft.  We need a wedge specialist in the worst way and there are going to be some great ones available early.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said:

How would shady not be missed? He is tje best RB on the roster currently......

If he can be replaced with a 3rd, why would someone trade something for him?

 

Every year rookie RB's come in including 3rd rounders and run for 1000 yards.  Shady may be the best we have, but based on last year wasn't very good to begin with.  Maybe with improved line he'll do better, but likely this is his last year with the Bills anyway, so I'd be fine with moving on now and get something in return.  While I think the Bills are a better team now than a year ago, don't think they are winning the SB either so taking a slight step back this season at RB to be better off in 2020, I'd be fine with that.

 

Can they trade him who knows, was thinking in the context of a package deal Shady, maybe one of the other names I mentioned and a pick to move up or get more picks.  Does he have trade value, don't know and didn't state we were getting a 3rd for him either.  All I said was we can replace him with a 3rd round RB.

[Chandler#81]

9 minutes ago, eball said:

 

 

@colin I'm totally with you.  @Chandler#81 just doesn't get it.  See my thread on how Beane absolutely must focus on ST in the draft.  We need a wedge specialist in the worst way and there are going to be some great ones available early.

 

but,but..wedges are illegal! Nobody’s gonna purposely cheat, right?

[iinii]

3 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Hock should be a lock and find a way to get to Bosa as well

Doubtful scenario, to say the least. While not Lottery long shot, Sportsbooks would have this at at least 5000 to 1. 

2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

How would shady not be missed? He is tje best RB on the roster currently......

If he can be replaced with a 3rd, why would someone trade something for him?

Exactly. 

[DCbillsfan]

6 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I can’t see Buffalo taking Simmons in any scenario.  They need DT help now and with his domestic violence history i just don’t see it happening.  

Isn't Simmons hurt?  Torn ACL?

[John from Riverside]

I liked the CBS Mock

 

Oliver - 1st

Risner - 2nd

 

Might have to trade up a bit for Risner but it would not require the kings ransom of at the top of the draft......3rd round would look at a Tight End

[CaptnCoke11]

7 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Isn't Simmons hurt?  Torn ACL?

Yeah he won’t play at all in 2019

[colin]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Have you been paying attention the last month? At least 3 of our FAs played special teams, not including the Leagues best returner but Including gunners. Housch should be fully healed. With at least 7 Draft picks, figure 4 will see action on teams, just to have a spot. All that’s left is figuring out who the PKH (Holder) is and who wins the punter job.

 

bro, are punters and holders not special teams players?!?!?

 

i feel like i've been taking crazy pills around here...

[Chandler#81]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

bro, are punters and holders not special teams players?!?!?

 

i feel like i've been taking crazy pills around here...

Just what is it you need to see about STs in early April aside from experienced ‘teamers’ already signed? We sign another punter? Cut Housch? 

Please! Take some crazy pills to offset the effect this has on you.

[DCbillsfan]

3 hours ago, colin said:

 

bro, are punters and holders not special teams players?!?!?

 

i feel like i've been taking crazy pills around here...

The Bills have P Cory Carter on the roster as well as Bojorquez.  Carter tore his ACL in preseason last year and Bills put him on IR.  He probably would have beaten out Colton Schmidt if not for the injury.