Zerovoltz Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 .....In 1989, Jimmy Johnson, having just drafted Troy Aikman, 1/1, used what ended up being his 1990 first round draft pick in the 1989 Supplemental draft on QB Steve Walsh from the U. Some of you may remember Walsh was a big time college QB at the time. Johnson, when asked why he had done this said that QB was too important to get wrong. He needed to make sure he had one. No one really remembers much about it because Aikman won that competition, went on to win 3 Super Bowls...and Walsh was traded to the Saints for draft picks. ....keep that in mind.... As much as many of you have cherry picked the stats to pieces and conjured up every possible scenario to hide the blight of Josh Allens horrendous 52% completion PCT....the fact is, as exciting and athlietic as he is...Josh Allen is still a major question mark to everyone outside western New York (yes Bills fans...where you see a an ascending future MVP QB, the rest of the country sees a gifted athlete who isn't a good thrower) Rosen is cheap. He can be had for a 2nd round draft pick. While the Bills certainly still have plenty of spots to fill and could use that 2nd to do that....what if you had Rosen on hand in case Josh Allen can't get that Comp % up above 55? What if you had the next blue chip prospect already on your roster and under contract if it turns out you've rebuilt the roster, have all this young talent ready to go, and your QB turns out to be a bust? You wouldn't need to rebuild again...you'd have Rosen ready to go. You might argure making such a move would damage Allens confidence. Maybe it would...but Aikman handled Johnson drafting Walsh, manned up and won that battle. If Allen has the fortitude he's said to posses around here...he'd compete. If Allen did turn out to be what you all are hoping for, Rosen would remain something of an unknown blue chip prospect that had value and could be traded for something useful next year. If the object of having a pro football team is to WIN...then getting QB right is worth making this kind of move. That's why Jimmy did it. Just something to think about....these kind of situations don't come around often. 3 4 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 how bout no 3 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 More dumb than unpopular imo 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 This will be a VERY unpopular take.? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Welcome back Jeffismagic. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Are you still hungover from the loss to the Pats? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Holy ***** man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Man...I've been given warning points for calling out OP's bull#### in the past...dude is so obviously a troll. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Why don't I buy a vw in case my Ferrari don't live up to my expectations 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Go take a timeout. Sit a few plays out. Regroup... Better yet, go back to Chiefs Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: This will be a VERY unpopular take.? You apparently liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: You apparently liked it. It's not the worst idea I've heard. It's obviously not going to happen, but you could stash Rosen away and very likely get that 2nd round pick back down the road. I'm not 100 sold on Allen, so of course I'm "receptive" to a contingency plan. Where it falls apart for me is that I think Rosen is trash. So there's that. The reason I liked the post was because you can't afford to be wrong at QB, so it's at least an interesting proposition. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Short form: OP thinks Allen is the wrong Josh and we should blow a second rounder on Rosen, [sarcasm]who so obviously outplayed Allen last year to warrant this[/sarcasm]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 In retrospect I'm glad the Patriots won the AFCG. This is what Zerovotlz has done to me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: You apparently liked it. I think it would be the right thing to do given the circumstances. I lurk around here and post often....I see how much most of you LOVE Josh Allen....and rightfully so...he's an exciting prospect, and your team just make several moves to upgrade the roster around him....and we haven't even gotten to the draft yet....Allen could be everything you all are still hoping for....but IF he doesn't turn out to be that guy....how often does a team ever have a chance to literally stock a BLUE CHIP prospect on the bench as an insurance plan? That is what Rosen could be for you. Allen is NOT a sure thing at all at this point. No matter how you break it down, he's gotta make a staggering improvement on that completion pct. His past suggests that isn't a given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 This is the type of topic we have after the season has ended and before free agency. As for the point of the topic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: .....In 1989, Jimmy Johnson, having just drafted Troy Aikman, 1/1, used what ended up being his 1990 first round draft pick in the 1989 Supplemental draft on QB Steve Walsh from the U. Some of you may remember Walsh was a big time college QB at the time. Johnson, when asked why he had done this said that QB was too important to get wrong. He needed to make sure he had one. No one really remembers much about it because Aikman won that competition, went on to win 3 Super Bowls...and Walsh was traded to the Saints for draft picks. ....keep that in mind.... As much as many of you have cherry picked the stats to pieces and conjured up every possible scenario to hide the blight of Josh Allens horrendous 52% completion PCT....the fact is, as exciting and athlietic as he is...Josh Allen is still a major question mark to everyone outside western New York (yes Bills fans...where you see a an ascending future MVP QB, the rest of the country sees a gifted athlete who isn't a good thrower) Rosen is cheap. He can be had for a 2nd round draft pick. While the Bills certainly still have plenty of spots to fill and could use that 2nd to do that....what if you had Rosen on hand in case Josh Allen can't get that Comp % up above 55? What if you had the next blue chip prospect already on your roster and under contract if it turns out you've rebuilt the roster, have all this young talent ready to go, and your QB turns out to be a bust? You wouldn't need to rebuild again...you'd have Rosen ready to go. You might argure making such a move would damage Allens confidence. Maybe it would...but Aikman handled Johnson drafting Walsh, manned up and won that battle. If Allen has the fortitude he's said to posses around here...he'd compete. If Allen did turn out to be what you all are hoping for, Rosen would remain something of an unknown blue chip prospect that had value and could be traded for something useful next year. If the object of having a pro football team is to WIN...then getting QB right is worth making this kind of move. That's why Jimmy did it. Just something to think about....these kind of situations don't come around often. I have two things to say: 1. For what seems the millionth time if he had two less drops a game or two less throwaways he hits this supposedly magical 60%. So once and for all drop that nonsense. 2. You're a Chiefs fan. Go play on their board. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Zerovotlz said: I think it would be the right thing to do given the circumstances. I lurk around here and post often....I see how much most of you LOVE Josh Allen....and rightfully so...he's an exciting prospect, and your team just make several moves to upgrade the roster around him....and we haven't even gotten to the draft yet....Allen could be everything you all are still hoping for....but IF he doesn't turn out to be that guy....how often does a team ever have a chance to literally stock a BLUE CHIP prospect on the bench as an insurance plan? That is what Rosen could be for you. Allen is NOT a sure thing at all at this point. No matter how you break it down, he's gotta make a staggering improvement on that completion pct. His past suggests that isn't a given. I watched Rosen play last season. Define "BLUE CHIP"... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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