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56 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I was called the biggest homer on this board for years.  I always wanted players to be good.  I freely admit I have a blind spot to judging Bills players.  I didn’t want Allen.  And it had nothing to do with his physical skills or mental abilities.  History says that if Allen becomes a successful qb, it will be a huge expectation to the general rule.  I wish I could just join the cult of Allen and just blindly believe.  Sorry but years of blindly believing and getting let down made me real skeptical.  I’m need much more than 52% and a solid wonderlic score to change that.  And as always, I hope the homers are right.    

But you've gone to far the other way, and are going out of your way not to like the kid. Listen, we all know that you're dying to jump on the bandwagon.  What is it going to take?

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

i was called the biggest homer on this board for years.  I always wanted players to be good.  I freely admit I have a blind spot to judging Bills players.  I didn’t want Allen.  And it had nothing to do with his physical skills or mental abilities.  History says that if Allen becomes a successful qb, it will be a huge expectation to the general rule.  I wish I could just join the cult of Allen and just blindly believe.  Sorry but years of blindly believing and getting let down made me real skeptical.  I’m need much more than 52% and a solid wonderlic score to change that.  And as always, I hope the homers are right. 

 

 

And your solution is to now berate other posters and call them homers because they look for optimism?  Curious.

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4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Has nothing to do with making a decision within 3 seconds under pressure and accurately delivering a pass. 

 

All this says is Allen can retain a lot of information.

What it means is that he has greater capacity to process what he sees and is more capable to interpret it correctly, thus making the right decision.  Smarter people have the correct answer before less smart people.  Give me a smart QB anytime.  None of this has anything to do with the ability to throw the ball with the right velocity or accuracy.  Coaching, athletic ability, and practice has to do the job with that.  Unfortunately all the coaching in the world can't overcome stupidity ( Vince Young proved that for all of us.).  All of the test scores with the exception of one, fall in a range that teams consider to be good for an NFL QB.

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4 hours ago, Forward Progress said:

For those who want to know all of the scores...

 

NFL Wonderlic Scores

 

I have pulled out a list of QB's for the sake of reference:

Player Score Position
Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 QB
Blaine Gabbert 42 QB
Carson Wentz 40 QB
Alex Smith 40 QB
Eli Manning 39 QB
Matthew Stafford 38 QB
Colin Kaepernick 38 QB
Josh Allen 37 QB
Tony Romo 37 QB
Andrew Luck 37 QB
Jared Goff 36 QB
Sam Bradford 36 QB
Drew Bledsoe 36 QB
Aaron Rodgers 35 QB
Ryan Tannehill 34 QB
Tom Brady 33 QB
Nathan Peterman 33 QB
Steve Young 33 QB
Marcus Mariota 33 QB
Kirk Cousins 33 QB
Johnny Manziel 32 QB
Matt Ryan 32 QB
JP Losman 31 QB
Trent Edwards 31 QB
Phillip Rivers 30 QB
Josh McCown 30 QB
Matt Barkley 30 QB
Josh Rosen 29 QB
Troy Aikman 29 QB
John Elway 29 QB
Andy Dalton 29 QB
Rex Grossman 29 QB
Nick Foles 29 QB
Matt Hasselbeck 29 QB
Jimmy Garoppolo 29 QB
Sam Darnold 28 QB
Blake Bortles 28 QB
Mark Sanchez 28 QB
Drew Brees 28 QB
Peyton Manning 28 QB
EJ Manuel 28 QB
Russell Wilson 28 QB
Joe Flacco 27 QB
Carson Palmer 26 QB
Jay Cutler 26 QB
Kyle Orton 26 QB
Baker Mayfield 25 QB
Ben Roethlisberger 25 QB
Chad Pennington 25 QB
Colt McCoy 25 QB
Cardale Jones 25 QB
Dak Prescott 25 QB
Mitchell Trubisky 25 QB
Brock Osweiler 25 QB
JaMarcus Russell 24 QB
Jacoby Brissett 24 QB
Geno Smith 24 QB
David Carr 24 QB
Patrick Mahomes 24 QB
Robert Griffin III 24 QB
Jordan Palmer 23 QB
Tim Tebow 22 QB
Brett Farve 22 QB
AJ McCarron 22 QB
Cam Newton 21 QB
Deshaun Watson 20 QB
Teddy Bridgewater 20 QB
Jake Locker 20 QB
Derek Carr 20 QB
Michael Vick 20 QB
Derek Anderson 19 QB
Daunte Culpepper 18 QB
Paxton Lynch 18 QB
Vinny Testaverde 17 QB
Terry Bradshaw 16 QB
Dan Marino 16 QB
Jim Kelly 15 QB
Vince Young 15 QB
Steve Mcnair 15 QB
Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB
Kordell Stewart 14 QB
Lamar Jackson 13 QB
Vince Young 6 QB

How is Vince Young up there twice?

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4 hours ago, Forward Progress said:

For those who want to know all of the scores...

 

NFL Wonderlic Scores

 

I have pulled out a list of QB's for the sake of reference:

Player Score Position
Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 QB
Blaine Gabbert 42 QB
Carson Wentz 40 QB
Alex Smith 40 QB
Eli Manning 39 QB
Matthew Stafford 38 QB
Colin Kaepernick 38 QB
Josh Allen 37 QB
Tony Romo 37 QB
Andrew Luck 37 QB
Jared Goff 36 QB
Sam Bradford 36 QB
Drew Bledsoe 36 QB
Aaron Rodgers 35 QB
Ryan Tannehill 34 QB
Tom Brady 33 QB
Nathan Peterman 33 QB
Steve Young 33 QB
Marcus Mariota 33 QB
Kirk Cousins 33 QB
Johnny Manziel 32 QB
Matt Ryan 32 QB
JP Losman 31 QB
Trent Edwards 31 QB
Phillip Rivers 30 QB
Josh McCown 30 QB
Matt Barkley 30 QB
Josh Rosen 29 QB
Troy Aikman 29 QB
John Elway 29 QB
Andy Dalton 29 QB
Rex Grossman 29 QB
Nick Foles 29 QB
Matt Hasselbeck 29 QB
Jimmy Garoppolo 29 QB
Sam Darnold 28 QB
Blake Bortles 28 QB
Mark Sanchez 28 QB
Drew Brees 28 QB
Peyton Manning 28 QB
EJ Manuel 28 QB
Russell Wilson 28 QB
Joe Flacco 27 QB
Carson Palmer 26 QB
Jay Cutler 26 QB
Kyle Orton 26 QB
Baker Mayfield 25 QB
Ben Roethlisberger 25 QB
Chad Pennington 25 QB
Colt McCoy 25 QB
Cardale Jones 25 QB
Dak Prescott 25 QB
Mitchell Trubisky 25 QB
Brock Osweiler 25 QB
JaMarcus Russell 24 QB
Jacoby Brissett 24 QB
Geno Smith 24 QB
David Carr 24 QB
Patrick Mahomes 24 QB
Robert Griffin III 24 QB
Jordan Palmer 23 QB
Tim Tebow 22 QB
Brett Farve 22 QB
AJ McCarron 22 QB
Cam Newton 21 QB
Deshaun Watson 20 QB
Teddy Bridgewater 20 QB
Jake Locker 20 QB
Derek Carr 20 QB
Michael Vick 20 QB
Derek Anderson 19 QB
Daunte Culpepper 18 QB
Paxton Lynch 18 QB
Vinny Testaverde 17 QB
Terry Bradshaw 16 QB
Dan Marino 16 QB
Jim Kelly 15 QB
Vince Young 15 QB
Steve Mcnair 15 QB
Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB
Kordell Stewart 14 QB
Lamar Jackson 13 QB
Vince Young 6 QB

There are some interesting trends there.

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The way I look at the Wonderlic today for a Qb as long as you score a 25 or higher you have a chance at being a starter in the NFL as long as the rest of the skills and brains add up. If you are under 25 it is a lot harder but doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Like what was said up stream it’s just one of many measures that you use to drafting a Qb. 

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7 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Has nothing to do with making a decision within 3 seconds under pressure and accurately delivering a pass. 

 

All this says is Allen can retain a lot of information.

 

The Wonderlic has almost ZERO to do with retaining information, past some basic vocabulary questions.

 

Give it a try - it's not easy.

 

Also, it is timed and it is really fast (12 minutes for 50 questions) so under pressure and fast are two key components.

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think he re-took it

 

Yes and he went from a 6 to a 16.

 

I just tried one and got 29/29 when I ran out of time - apparently I'm smart enough to answer the questions but not smart enough to read the directions on the part where it's 12 minutes for 50 questions!  Spent 5 minutes getting one that had me stuck :P  Pretty sure I'd have been well in the 40's if I'd skipped it and moved on.

 

I'm a physicist and robot AI developer, for context.

 

Fitz has me impressed!

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37 but on my phone and was listening to WGR. I could have done better and ran out of time.

4 hours ago, the skycap said:

Why didn't they erase the lower score? There's quite a few HOFer's with scores in the teens. Is the wonderlic overrated?

It is a freakin joke. I wrote earlier. I got a 37, on my phone, while listening to WGR. I am sure it would have improved IF I paid attention to the test and the timer. I cant imagine if Inhad practiced it a few times before ro get toming and pace down. There are better psychological instruments in the in line with a stronger correlation of successful QB play and instrument scores.

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