Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: The thing is, too, his injury last year happened while sitting in the pocket. Hindsight seems to be is that it was a good thing as he needed that time just to step back a bit. Mmmm, maybe? 1) Josh took a big-time lickin' against Green Bay. 7 sacks and I don't know how many hits. 2) next week against the Titans, the Bills had a notably run-dominant game plan. 43 rush attempts to only 19 pass attempts by Allen - almost as if Allen's passing was limited and they designed the game plan to give him a break 3) following week, Allen takes a helmet to his elbow that doesn't look that severe of a hit - but could easily have exacerbated an existing injury to "shut him down" point So was it a freak injury, or was Allen actually injured when he was beaten to a pulp in Green Bay, they designed a game plan to protect him and let him play himself healthy vs Tenn, and Houston exacerbated something? Conspiracy theories aside, it's a point that some of the biggest hits QBs take, they take in the pocket especially if the Zebras keep the laundry in their pockets on late or marginal hits. Certainly Sam Bradford would be a textbook example of a guy who has been injured repeatedly doing what a pocket QB does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFlutie said: Honestly, that's what I noticed in his very first preseason game, and I've been sold ever since. On his first drop back I saw poise. When he drops back, he is immediately focused. No dear in headlights look to him like we've seen with basically every other Bills QB the past 15 years not named Fitzpatrick. His head is down and he's working the play. While he sits there, he never stays still- he chops his feet and points towards each read. When he makes a decision, the ball is out FAST. While he moves around, he makes sudden movements, and he runs around a lot, but he never looks panicked. He actually looks in control. Like, you get the feeling that if he can't get it done, nobody can. He just LOOKS like a QB when he plays. These are things that you can't easily teach. I think that Josh is going to be special. Not just because he has the talent and he works hard, but he is a true QB, which means he has a template to fill with all that hard work. Yep. It's hard to teach, and I noticed it in the panthers game too. It's almost easy to take for granted, until you see all the young QBs who don't have it. As a Bills fan, I've seen too many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: The thing is, too, his injury last year happened while sitting in the pocket. Hindsight seems to be is that it was a good thing as he needed that time just to step back a bit. Good point. The so-called "pocket" behind the Bills line was the least safe place for a QB to hang around last year. For a QB used to doing it all, it will be an interesting growth year for Josh if things gel and he has the support tools around him he has rarely had. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmon06 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Gisele said: Thanks. Nothing is gonna get done at work today. Luckily, I'm retired so I plan on watching it until, oh...about dinner time.. I don't know if Allen is going to be great, but the kid is the first quarterback since Elway who makes me want to see more. Can't wait for 2019 season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: While he sits there, he never stays still- he chops his feet and points towards each read. This is why that last play against Miami where Clay failed to make the catch was great. Josh always keeps the feet going, making him more elusive than a normal tall pocket QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I liked this one more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Mmmm, maybe? 1) Josh took a big-time lickin' against Green Bay. 7 sacks and I don't know how many hits. 2) next week against the Titans, the Bills had a notably run-dominant game plan. 43 rush attempts to only 19 pass attempts by Allen - almost as if Allen's passing was limited and they designed the game plan to give him a break 3) following week, Allen takes a helmet to his elbow that doesn't look that severe of a hit - but could easily have exacerbated an existing injury to "shut him down" point So was it a freak injury, or was Allen actually injured when he was beaten to a pulp in Green Bay, they designed a game plan to protect him and let him play himself healthy vs Tenn, and Houston exacerbated something? Conspiracy theories aside, it's a point that some of the biggest hits QBs take, they take in the pocket especially if the Zebras keep the laundry in their pockets on late or marginal hits. Certainly Sam Bradford would be a textbook example of a guy who has been injured repeatedly doing what a pocket QB does. Great post, as ususal! Hap, did you see the Tweet (I forget from who) where it was said that Allen was sacked 17 times within 2.5 seconds of the snap of the ball? Jeepers, man, I know he is still a kid, but let's keep making those moves to make sure he stays upright. I really still want him to make yards with his feet, but I would prefer if he worked harder at getting out of bounds and also slid maybe a step or two sooner than normal to avoid the Kikos of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 What is this "sicko mode" nonsense. So ***** corny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I liked this one more. That's a cool song. I liked this a lot, but I wish they'd sped up more of the Allen throws. The music would speed up and then they'd cut into a long floating pass play, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I liked this one more. Very cool BUT ... Not just Josh Allen centric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 There was actually video evidence of Kelvin Benjamin getting open for a pass last season! Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: Honestly, that's what I noticed in his very first preseason game, and I've been sold ever since. On his first drop back I saw poise. When he drops back, he is immediately focused. No dear in headlights look to him like we've seen with basically every other Bills QB the past 15 years not named Fitzpatrick. His head is down and he's working the play. While he sits there, he never stays still- he chops his feet and points towards each read. When he makes a decision, the ball is out FAST. While he moves around, he makes sudden movements, and he runs around a lot, but he never looks panicked. He actually looks in control. Like, you get the feeling that if he can't get it done, nobody can. He just LOOKS like a QB when he plays. These are things that you can't easily teach. I think that Josh is going to be special. Not just because he has the talent and he works hard, but he is a true QB, which means he has a template to fill with all that hard work. I agree with 95% of what u said he just needs to learn to trust his pocket and step up more sometimes. He leaves the pocket a little too early and that's a prb he had since college. If he can just get that pocket awareNess and become more of a 85 -15 guy he can be seriously good. 85-15 = 85% passer, 15% runner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: I agree with 95% of what u said he just needs to learn to trust his pocket and step up more sometimes. He leaves the pocket a little too early and that's a prb he had since college. If he can just get that pocket awareNess and become more of a 85 -15 guy he can be seriously good. 85-15 = 85% passer, 15% runner I agree with you- he leaves the pocket early and he has done that since college. However, I think his general pocket awareness is already very good, and that he tends not to trust what he's feeling because of repeated cases of early pocket breakdown (both in college and now). If we want him to hang out in the pocket a bit longer (or more consistently), we need to develop that O-Line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Where can I find Rosen’s sicko mode video? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: why, oh why, must EVERY highlight video be accompanied by garbage auto-tune "music?" That video is a few weeks old and I had seen it. Very very good on mute indeed LOL Video creators can do what they want, but I'm sure they actually edit and post these to share with people. Well, it's pretty safe to say 95% of the viewers are Bills and NFL fans... like them. But far far from that % will be fans of this kind of music, it's not what make us bond or watch this, so they should avoid it IMO. But I have sometimes read by modifying the soundtrack it makes less likely for the video to be banned. But yeah, Football has a sound of its own I'd rather hear than this "music". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Love it!!! This kid simply has "winner" written all over him. Am still amazed there's a clip of #13 KB being convinced to catch a pass in some space anywhere though I suspect they bribed him with extra orange slices at halftime! It actually did look funny to me, because burned into my brain are all the crappy plays. 2 hours ago, CSBill said: There was actually video evidence of Kelvin Benjamin getting open for a pass last season! Who knew? I suspect somebody fell down...... that’s all I got..... AND THEN HE CAUGHT IT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: I suspect they bribed him with extra orange slices at halftime! It actually did look funny to me, because burned into my brain are all the crappy plays. I suspect somebody fell down...... that’s all I got..... AND THEN HE CAUGHT IT! Likely they scouted him and just decided not to cover the slow guy with a T-Rex catching radius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, WideNine said: Likely they scouted him and just decided not to cover the slow guy with a T-Rex catching radius. He was the one guy the other team decided needed no company out by the three point line. I saw some of that this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: God that kid is good. What’s better is that he will get better. Talk about a player with a wealth of talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: What’s better is that he will get better. Talk about a player with a wealth of talent. Correct - last year we likely saw the worst of Josh, with his inexperience and the lack of talent around him. Thinking about the future....mmmm...mmmm...oh yeah! ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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