Golden Goat Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: Everything weak needs to be addressed. Which is why your original post got so many replies. Glad you understand now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 So is your point we should be signing people to help ST in which they are doing that or not signing people to help to promote a specific narrative? or 2. just to find something to criticize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, tumaro02 said: So is your point we should be signing people to help ST in which they are doing that or not signing people to help to promote a specific narrative? or 2. just to find something to criticize? If you bothered to read anything other than the OP, I said this is good they are addressing all weaknesses of the team, since ST seems to something glossed over. Is there a reason for your highly aggressive sounding response? Are you looking to argue and fight with someone you will never meet in your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: If you bothered to read anything other than the OP, I said this is good they are addressing all weaknesses of the team, since ST seems to something glossed over. Is there a reason for your highly aggressive sounding response? Are you looking to argue and fight with someone you will never meet in your life? He simply asked you a question. Stop being so thin skinned. Throughout this thread, you have been engaging in the very same behavior you are railing against. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: He simply asked you a question. Stop being so thin skinned. Throughout this thread, you have been engaging in the very same behavior you are railing against. Ya the guy berating everyone else for "talking tough" from the safety of the internet is tossing the most threats, lul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: Yes I do. But I also know that ST normal has that. And giving up huge returns and stupid flags on ST plays is completely inexcusable. I was on shoutcast here during games. People on this site were screaming for Crossman's head with good reason. Crossman wasn't the reason for the flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 hours ago, BuffAlone said: I think this fact is very well known. This is not breaking news and is obviously being addressed in FA. Please pay attention OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I've always that that Special Teams was a reflection of the Head Coach. It's not just a matter of picking up good bottom-53 players who can man the Teams, it's making sure to focus on it in practice (the best coaches give it almost an equal footing with Defense and Offense), film study, and game preparation. PLUS in a salary cap league, focusing on Teams is a great way to improve your margin of victory at a low cost - it's inexpensive to sign quality special team players and coaches and focus on it during the week. Beane seems to understand the importance of it. Not yet sure that McDermott does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 13 hours ago, SoTier said: t Yeah, blame Crossman for not being able to turn crap into gold and fire his ass. McBeane did the same with Castillo the OL coach. McBeane seem to be really good at using scapegoats to disguise their own shortcomings in evaluating personnel. Special team doesn’t require all stars. The ST unit was undisciplined and poorly coached. ‘Scapegoat’ is a victim mentality interpretation. Holding coaches accountable for results is simply strong competitive leadership. Some folks can’t handle it and think that’s unfair. I remind my kids constantly the world is not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I've always that that Special Teams was a reflection of the Head Coach. It's not just a matter of picking up good bottom-53 players who can man the Teams, it's making sure to focus on it in practice (the best coaches give it almost an equal footing with Defense and Offense), film study, and game preparation. PLUS in a salary cap league, focusing on Teams is a great way to improve your margin of victory at a low cost - it's inexpensive to sign quality special team players and coaches and focus on it during the week. Beane seems to understand the importance of it. Not yet sure that McDermott does. Good points. The other aspect is LB, S, CB, and TE depth. The backups at those positions often make up the core of your “teams” groups, and we had a serious lack of talent at those spots last season. Hopefully Beanes depth changes and the new coach bring us back up to par with the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 That’s why we picked up the best returner for kicks and punts in the NFL, and a top flight gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 No depth behind a bunch of young guys and the STs usual suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 BTW Everyone talks OL and WR . I myself am talking about DT/Edge. WR is much lower on my priority list below-OL,TE, RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Crossman wasn't the reason for the flags Ethan I respect your opinion, but man you defend Jon Miller, Jordan Mills, and Danny Crossman? You are certainly on your own island my friend. Crossman was terrible and if the guys on your squad are committing lots of penalties, it's becuase your scheme sucks or you aren't teaching proper technique. It's a coache's job to get the best out his players, and that is why Crossman and Castillo are gone. Crossman got hired by a tanking team to help the tank and Castillo has no job. Edited March 24, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Special team doesn’t require all stars. The ST unit was undisciplined and poorly coached. ‘Scapegoat’ is a victim mentality interpretation. Holding coaches accountable for results is simply strong competitive leadership. Some folks can’t handle it and think that’s unfair. I remind my kids constantly the world is not fair. Apparently, everybody is accountable except for McDermott and Beane -- y'know, the guys who hire assistant coaches and make decisions on players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Apparently, everybody is accountable except for McDermott and Beane -- y'know, the guys who hire assistant coaches and make decisions on players. I’m not sure the point here so tears... but firing people you hired and cutting people you acquired is absolutely holding oneself accountable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Ethan I respect your opinion, but man you defend Jon Miller, Jordan Mills, and Danny Crossman? You are certainly on your own island my friend. Crossman was terrible and if the guys on your squad are committing lots of penalties, it's becuase your scheme sucks or you aren't teaching proper technique. It's a coache's job to get the best out his players, and that is why Crossman and Castillo are gone. Crossman got hired by a tanking team to help the tank and Castillo has no job. I'm not defending them. I am just not saying they are the root cause of the problem and simply replacing them will be an improvement. I don't believe there is any correlation between ST coaches and performance on the field. Look at April and Crossman's careers. They both have had awful and highly rated units. The Bills have had terrible WR and LB groups for a couple years now and the depth behind the starting secondary has either been injured or just not good. Those positon groups make up the bulk of the important ST groups. My question for you is, every person who has ever watched a football game knows you can't block in the back yet game after game multiple penalties. Do you really think Crossman did not teach that? And if you throw Crossman under the bus for the penalties, what about the rest of the staff for all the presnap penalties??? Again I don't care one bit who is the ST coach, I just know changing the coach is not an effective improvement strategy. As for Miller and Mills, neither are even average but had ok moments. Im just not convinced the replacements, while more expensive are any better. I've also criticized Teller who was even worse last year but hope will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Crossman wasn't the reason for the flags ...any idea why he was a holdover through 3 regimes?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...any idea why he was a holdover through 3 regimes?.......... That is a good question. Best guess is within coaching circles he probably knows what he is doing and is respected far more than this board knows his qualifications. Again, I don't care who the STs coach is. I won't give any credit to the new coordinator if they perform better nor criticize if they are the same or worse. Its all the players on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: If you bothered to read anything other than the OP, I said this is good they are addressing all weaknesses of the team, since ST seems to something glossed over. Is there a reason for your highly aggressive sounding response? Are you looking to argue and fight with someone you will never meet in your life? I get what you’re saying. I think people came at you because you imply ST is ignored or glossed over. Not here it isn’t. Most people who visit here regularly are pretty plugged in on signings, coaching changes, team stregths, weaknesses, etc. The dismal ST last year did not go unnoticed (there were constant threads about ST every week during the season), nor did the moves the team’s made since then to address it. Suggesting these things were missed may be why you got some of the responses you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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