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4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I don't want to be that curmudgeon guy, but seems like overkill at this point in terms of trying to invent new "entertainment options" for the stadium crowds--all of the owners are trying to do that in some form or fashion under the guise of attracting more business/traffic, but at what point do you draw the line and say you're here for the game down on the field and treat the field with a little more priority than the ancillary food court at the mall? If the fans really are that bored/fickle, then find something else to do with your Sunday afternoons. Look, I'm all for more comfortable seats, cheaper concessions and decent wifi throughout, but I also know I'm not in Vegas when I'm attending a local sporting event, jmho. Did anyone see marketing genius Russ Brandon back in town coincidentally? :P

It's tough because the home viewing experience just keeps getting better and better.  Teams need to find ways to get people to want to go to the games.

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I wonder if you could make in game prop bets.  I used to have a group of buddies I'd go to baseball games with and we would constantly bet on things during the game, like whether the next pitch would be a ball or strike, if someone would swing, would anyone reach base that inning, would a pitcher throw to first more than once, etc...  We usually all pretty much ended even by the end of a game but it changed the experience.  Not that I would do that with a Bills game, but I would probably place some bets during game if it was convenient.  

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33 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Oh sure, let the Mob move in

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Yes the mob are saying that NFL thing could be great if only there was gambling ?

 

Unofficial gambling is a reality, I'd prefer that tax dollars especially if the revenues are used locally. Slightly different (but kinda the same) here in GA they use lottery revenues to fund college scholarships ( Hope and Zell Miller) for kids with GPA's over 3.0

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49 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

Gambling at sports venues has no appeal to me personally.  I would not partake even if it were present and legal.  I go for the football....really.

 

Are you the guy who really got Playboy for the articles?     ?

 

Kidding, I’m with you. I don’t gamble in Vegas, so I don’t care if they add gambling at the stadium. If others want it, I won’t judge. Have fun! I’ll just be out doing the football thing. 

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1 hour ago, bigK14094 said:

Gambling at sports venues has no appeal to me personally.  I would not partake even if it were present and legal.  I go for the football....really.

 

Think horse track..  appeals to plenty. 

 

FFB has softened NFL fan base  to sports gambling.  It’s engaging. They’ll have $1 bets on whether they get a first down on the next play, run or throw, who makes the play, it’s another way to empty the wallets of a captive group of 80,000 people, if not the TV audience too...

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1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I don't want to be that curmudgeon guy, but seems like overkill at this point in terms of trying to invent new "entertainment options" for the stadium crowds--all of the owners are trying to do that in some form or fashion under the guise of attracting more business/traffic, but at what point do you draw the line and say you're here for the game down on the field and treat the field with a little more priority than the ancillary food court at the mall? If the fans really are that bored/fickle, then find something else to do with your Sunday afternoons. Look, I'm all for more comfortable seats, cheaper concessions and decent wifi throughout, but I also know I'm not in Vegas when I'm attending a local sporting event, jmho. Did anyone see marketing genius Russ Brandon back in town coincidentally? :P

 

Well then don't     

 

:nana:   :lol:

 

If the team is getting pounded this may help you find a different form of entertainment AND keep you in the stadium at the same time 

 

 

I'm not a gambler.  If I go to a casino I go there with a set amount of $ . If I lose, I loose what I intended to spend for entertainment purposes.   If I win great

1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

As drunk as Bills fans get they will make a killing.

Every stadium is full of drunken fools by halftime 

 

But yes, to your point, they can make a killing.  

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I'm not a gambler, but if there was an in-stadium app (I'm not leaving my seat to gamble) about who will have the most 1st downs, rushing yards, sacks, etc.  Perhaps each quarter, or by half, I'd def play if the buy-in was reasonable (under $5).  

 

It would also, as another poster stated, keep the game interesting when we are blowing out other teams! 

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54 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

I'm not a gambler, but if there was an in-stadium app (I'm not leaving my seat to gamble) about who will have the most 1st downs, rushing yards, sacks, etc.  Perhaps each quarter, or by half, I'd def play if the buy-in was reasonable (under $5).  

 

It would also, as another poster stated, keep the game interesting when we are blowing out other teams

 

Actually it was the other way around    

 

when we were getting blown out 

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Depending on the scope of this, it could go a long ways to whether they build a new stadium or renovate the current one.  Imagine the state of the art stadium they would build with a full blown casino!  I know the article says it's for sports-betting, but who's to say it would stop there in the future.

 

If they planned on this, or really any form of gambling, I don't want to hear anything about the public funding it up front as the fans would end up funding it through losing money gambling fast enough. A bunch of drunk people gambling in the stadium?  Sounds like a great way for the team to make money and fund their own stadium to me.

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3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

It would seem to me that almost every fan in the stadium would bet on the Bills and force the line to change, thus making it a worse bet.

 

Sounds like a rip off, or maybe I am too skeptical and negative..

Ha. Good stuff. But I'm sure any theoretical bookmaking operation in the stadium would be connected to a larger operation and the in stadium betting would only be a fraction of their take. 

 

I think it's a great idea and the kind of necessarily innovation required to keep fans coming. Sporting events/concerts etc. are becoming less and less appealing to the masses.

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3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Are you the guy who really got Playboy for the articles?     ?

 

Kidding, I’m with you. I don’t gamble in Vegas, so I don’t care if they add gambling at the stadium. If others want it, I won’t judge. Have fun! I’ll just be out doing the football thing. 

 

Yeah - i don't think you want to create like a horse-racing type of atmosphere though where the sole reason you are there is to gamble. 

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38 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Depending on the scope of this, it could go a long ways to whether they build a new stadium or renovate the current one.  Imagine the state of the art stadium they would build with a full blown casino!  I know the article says it's for sports-betting, but who's to say it would stop there in the future.

 

If they planned on this, or really any form of gambling, I don't want to hear anything about the public funding it up front as the fans would end up funding it through losing money gambling fast enough. A bunch of drunk people gambling in the stadium?  Sounds like a great way for the team to make money and fund their own stadium to me.

 

The downtown Buffalo casino honestly isn't bad.  They charge for drinks though... like cmon - you're raking in money and you gotta charge me 8 bucks for a 7 and 7?

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19 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Ha. Good stuff. But I'm sure any theoretical bookmaking operation in the stadium would be connected to a larger operation and the in stadium betting would only be a fraction of their take. 

 

I think it's a great idea and the kind of necessarily innovation required to keep fans coming. Sporting events/concerts etc. are becoming less and less appealing to the masses.

It depends. If the betting is controlled by the state, I think that the fraction of which you speak might add up, especially in certain other states (perhaps Wisconsin for example).

 

I am not against it, but I wouldn't want to get ripped off on the point spread if I was making a wager. And if I was a bettor, I wouldn't bet against the Bills under any conditions.

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Just now, Bill from NYC said:

It depends. If the betting is controlled by the state, I think that the fraction of which you speak might add up, especially in certain other states (perhaps Wisconsin for example).

 

I am not against it, but I wouldn't want to get ripped off on the point spread if I was making a wager. And if I was a bettor, I wouldn't bet against the Bills under any conditions.

In Delaware, the betting is essentially contracted out to William Hill, the largest (legal) bookmaker in the world. I would imagine the in stadium betting would be something akin to that.

 

The last thing I'd trust a state to do is set/adjust lines. Not nearly as easy as people think.

 

But the premise of the Bills being favored by 20 over the Pats at New Era Field is a good one. As an aside, I bet against "my" teams all the time. I'll root for my team to the bitter end but at least have something to show for it when they break my heart.

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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:

In Delaware, the betting is essentially contracted out to William Hill, the largest (legal) bookmaker in the world. I would imagine the in stadium betting would be something akin to that.

 

The last thing I'd trust a state to do is set/adjust lines. Not nearly as easy as people think.

 

I thought that the largest legal bookmaker was the state of California. After all, who books the numbers, etc.?

 

What they do in Delaware sounds like a good idea but the State of New York screwing something up isn't something I cannot visualize. Are you familiar with NYC OTB? They lost money booking horses. :)

 

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2 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

Yeah - i don't think you want to create like a horse-racing type of atmosphere though where the sole reason you are there is to gamble. 

No, don’t want to forget why you’re there!!!  But I don’t think thats what it will become. The horses run one race after another seemingly for the sole purpose of placing your bets. Either way, I’ll just ignore it. 

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2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

If they do, it’s two decades late,  Since it’s medicinally advocated to help relieve pain for which we may be finally easing our way out of... 

 

Haha, fair point.

 

Anyhap, edibles are easy enough to get in anyways, my wife makes some really nice chocolates ;) 

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