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The New York Jets made a franchise-defining move last year on St. Patrick’s Day. General manager Mike Maccagnan sent three second-round picks (two in 2018 and one in 2019) along with New York’s 2018 first-round pick to the Indianapolis Colts for the third-overall pick in last year’s draft.

As history would have it, the Jets selected USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who was the No. 1 target for New York entering the draft period, according to ESPN.

The aggressive move by Maccagnan essentially placed several quarterback-needy teams, including the Buffalo Bills, in panic mode to scramble and position themselves in a good spot to land one of the top-tier quarterbacks on their big boards. After all, there’s only a finite number of NFL-caliber quarterbacks in college.

In reviewing the trade a year later, ESPN highlighted that the Bills were not too happy with this move the Jets. Per the report, the Bills were “furious” about the move:

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/18/buffalo-bills-furious-new-york-jets-2018-trade-nfl-draft-sam-darnold-josh-allen/

 

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I think most fans were pretty upset that day...the Jets pulled off the trade the Bills were supposed to make....hopefully Allen will be just as good- if not better.

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Need more context for why were the Bills furious. Who on the Buffalo staff was furious? Did the Bills try to trade with the Colts already? I don’t think IF someone was furious it was because they wanted Darnold. I believe the Bills had Darnold and Allen ranked pretty equally, albeit for different reasons. This article doesn’t state, nor should it, that the Bills were furious because they wanted Darnold.

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This might be the dumbest thing ever.

 

I think the Bills knew that the Jets wanted to trade up and the Bills were mad because of it?

 

Yeah ok. I don't buy it for one second.

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Let me put it this way. I would NOT trade Josh Allen for Sam Darnold.....noooooo

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I think at the time most people thought Darnold would be the 1st pick. I suspect the Bills were furious because they saw a situation where Darnold went #1 and Allen went #3 and they were left with Mason Rudolph (I have reported on this site previously that a former coach in the league was told after the draft that the Bills did not have Mayfield and Rosen on their board). 

 

Once the Browns began to pivot towards Mayfield the draft tilted back towards Beane and co.... because Darnold and Allen were their guys. 

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I was pissed too. I don’t want my rival to have a greater selection of franchise QBs than me. 

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I don't trust Pac10 QBs Rodgers is the only one I can think of recently who has had long success, Carson Palmer worked out too but not as well as Aaron. The rest have been Matt Barkley, Sanchize, Leinart, Rosen (jury is out) Mariota (looks like he is going to fizzle out) I'm sure I am missing a few but the Pac10 has been abysmal at sending pro ready qbs in the recent past. I am good with Josh Allen.  As I'm writing this I forgot about Luck he is obviously a franchise guy, and I also forgot about Goff who also seems legit.

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It really makes you wonder whether Allen truly was their #1 target from the start...or whether he was their #1 target when it appeared that Mayfield it Darnold would be off the board.  

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9 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said:

I don't trust Pac10 QBs Rodgers is the only one I can think of recently who has had long success, Carson Palmer worked out too but not as well as Aaron. The rest have been Matt Barkley, Sanchize, Leinart, Rosen (jury is out) Mariota (looks like he is going to fizzle out) I'm sure I am missing a few but the Pac10 has been abysmal at sending pro ready qbs in the recent past. I am good with Josh Allen.  As I'm writing this I forgot about Luck he is obviously a franchise guy, and I also forgot about Goff who also seems legit.

 

Rodgers is enough to make this point pointless

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Just now, Chemical said:

 

Rodgers is enough to make this point pointless

Yeah, the more I thought about it the more I thought about deleting it but I had already put in so much work! 

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Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Beane's and the Bills lucky star was shining brightly when Allen was there at seven. 

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I doubt the Bills were furious....they had to know Darnold was going in 1st 5 picks

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7 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

It really makes you wonder whether Allen truly was their #1 target from the start...or whether he was their #1 target when it appeared that Mayfield it Darnold would be off the board.  

 

It was Darnold and Allen.

 

If both were gone they'd have gone somewhere else with their first pick and selected Mason Rudolph with their second first rounder (or possibly moving up in the 2nd). 

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If I remember correctly, there were hints from Beane that he was upset with Indy.  I think Beane may have had a trade in place with Indy, but Indy reneged.  That was just speculation.  However, in hindsight, I bet Beane is happy it worked out that way.  Josh Allen is the right QB for the Buffalo Bills.

 

 

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Ben Allbright replied to that tweet yesterday with the Billswire article and said the reason they were furious had to do with their perceived ability to still get Allen, not Darnold (I cant get these tweets to embed for some reason). Allbright was in on the Bills interest in Allen the entire pre-draft period. 

 

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/1107730433377214465?s=21

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They were furious, but that was because they thought it would cost them Allen, who was their guy wire to wire.

 

 

https://twitter.com/salsports/status/1107811882788888581?s=21

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I asked Beane specifically about the Jets trade just two weeks after it happened while at the NFL owners meetings.  You can watch/listen to his answer here ( :55 mark):

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/beane-our-focus-is-on-building-the-roster-20489992

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57 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Need more context for why were the Bills furious. Who on the Buffalo staff was furious? Did the Bills try to trade with the Colts already? I don’t think IF someone was furious it was because they wanted Darnold. I believe the Bills had Darnold and Allen ranked pretty equally, albeit for different reasons. This article doesn’t state, nor should it, that the Bills were furious because they wanted Darnold.

 

Well, you won't get it from that article.

 

It quotes an ESPN article which says quote: " The Buffalo Bills, picking 12th, were said to be furious upon learning of the trade. In the end, they wound up trading up to No. 7 to select Allen. "

 

No source, no detail, and the weasel-words "said to be".  Nothing about who said what or why.

 

Keep in mind that at the time of the trade-up, it was not at all for sure that Darnold would be available at Pick #3.  It was thought that the Browns might select Darnold at #1, and it was also felt that the NYG would be foolish to not expend a pick on a Manning replacement at QB while they were drafting so high.

 

 

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

The New York Jets made a franchise-defining move last year on St. Patrick’s Day. General manager Mike Maccagnan sent three second-round picks (two in 2018 and one in 2019) along with New York’s 2018 first-round pick to the Indianapolis Colts for the third-overall pick in last year’s draft.

As history would have it, the Jets selected USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who was the No. 1 target for New York entering the draft period, according to ESPN.

The aggressive move by Maccagnan essentially placed several quarterback-needy teams, including the Buffalo Bills, in panic mode to scramble and position themselves in a good spot to land one of the top-tier quarterbacks on their big boards. After all, there’s only a finite number of NFL-caliber quarterbacks in college.

In reviewing the trade a year later, ESPN highlighted that the Bills were not too happy with this move the Jets. Per the report, the Bills were “furious” about the move:

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/18/buffalo-bills-furious-new-york-jets-2018-trade-nfl-draft-sam-darnold-josh-allen/

 

 

Meaning no offense to you, HOUSE - "don't shoot the messenger" and all - but this is the kind of lazy journalism I dislike.  No source, quotes another article as source, other article quotes no source.

 

28 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

It really makes you wonder whether Allen truly was their #1 target from the start...or whether he was their #1 target when it appeared that Mayfield it Darnold would be off the board.  

 

I don't think the Bills were interested in Mayfield at all.

 

I was, but that and a quarter will get me a cup of milk when I buy it at the grocery store.

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I would hope most of any OBD being furious was because they never had a shot at Mayfield. The gap between him is much larger than that between Darnold and Allen (and that’s not saying either is clearly ahead of the other).

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1 hour ago, njbuff said:

This might be the dumbest thing ever.

 

I think the Bills knew that the Jets wanted to trade up and the Bills were mad because of it?

 

Yeah ok. I don't buy it for one second.

I’m sure the Bills were very upset -if that’s different from furious. I think they hoped or expected that everyone would keep their spots and we’d have a bevy of Draft picks while landing a can’t miss QB. When the Jets ‘Jets’d’, everyone else in the QB frenzy had to surrender hard earned choices (multiple 2nds, multiple 3rds) just to assure no team would sneak up and ruin it. 

We’ll likely never know if Darnold was #1 on our Board, but if it was Allen and Darnold was the Jets #1, then those idiots from jersey screwed up everybody’s hard earned capital -including their own, when they didn’t even have to.

 

I hate them.

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21 minutes ago, PIZ said:

If I remember correctly, there were hints from Beane that he was upset with Indy.  I think Beane may have had a trade in place with Indy, but Indy reneged.  That was just speculation.  However, in hindsight, I bet Beane is happy it worked out that way.  Josh Allen is the right QB for the Buffalo Bills.

 

 

Yeah I agree and they may have very well pissed at the price the jets paid to move up knowing it would drive our cost up to move up. Just a thought, either way I’m glad we got our Josh!

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After Buffalo acquired #7 from Cincy I thought it was a brilliant move by the Jets from GM perspective to leap frog the Bills. As great as Beane has been he really screwed the pooch on that one. He didn't believe the Jets would overpay as much draft capital as they did to acquire 3. Wrong! When you're looking to get your franchise QB you should leave nothing to chance. The Jets guaranteed themselves to get Mayfield or Darnold, they didn't leave it to chance. Now if Allen was the intended target all along ( I don't think he was), then all this speculation doesn't matter. 

 

If they targeted someone other than Allen I can see them being furious because they really killed it trying to build capital to get to 7 and probably had designs to move up from there. 

 

But there really is no need to rehash any of this. Jets made their move and the Bills made theirs. We got our franchise QB and I look forward to years of epic division battles like those of the 90s. 

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1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Need more context for why were the Bills furious. Who on the Buffalo staff was furious? Did the Bills try to trade with the Colts already? I don’t think IF someone was furious it was because they wanted Darnold. I believe the Bills had Darnold and Allen ranked pretty equally, albeit for different reasons. This article doesn’t state, nor should it, that the Bills were furious because they wanted Darnold.

 

Come on ATL, that’s asking too much for the media these days. Just putting words together is a success for them these days. 

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

I think most fans were pretty upset that day...the Jets pulled off the trade the Bills were supposed to make....hopefully Allen will be just as good- if not better.

your post suggests they wanted darnold over allen?

 

the article does not say anything about them wanting darnold over allen. what I get from the article was the jets messed the plan of positioning up with their move but as the article says:

 

Here’s the thing: Buffalo, supposedly “furious” by this deal, still landed a marquee quarterback, even though he did not play for a big-name college program. And, they definitely did not panic.

 

Thus, the Bills made their move for Josh Allen. While some reports dangled Allen as the first overall pick in the draft, it was not meant to be.

 

It was apparent that Allen was the No. 1 quarterback on the Bills’ radar.

 

So far, it’s going according to plan for Buffalo and Allen.

 

very misleading title and article.

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