Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Is he worth the contract he’s gonna get? That’s a very hard question. Remember there is a knee situation that may start acting up with mileage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 6:56 AM, chris heff said: That is interesting and probably true, but wouldn’t that increase the value of a good pass rushing DT? Shortest distance is a straight line. Yes I think penetrating pass rushing DTs are going to become more valuable in the quick release NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 If the Texans and Clowney continue to be at an impasse, the value will be going way down. If any team waits it out, it could be a third rounder at most. I don't know if the Bills will be in on it, but Clowney's skill set is a perfect fit for McDermott's D. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I would not be against having him.....but the production numbers dont match the perceived value imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, njbuff said: If the Texans and Clowney continue to be at an impasse, the value will be going way down. If any team waits it out, it could be a third rounder at most. I don't know if the Bills will be in on it, but Clowney's skill set is a perfect fit for McDermott's D. We shall see. Texans are in win now mode. They are trying to make a super bowl run with the squad and Clowney helps that. They can always tag him again next year at 19 mil or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Texans are in win now mode. They are trying to make a super bowl run with the squad and Clowney helps that. They can always tag him again next year at 19 mil or so Can't keep tagging players. Eventually something has to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, njbuff said: Can't keep tagging players. Eventually something has to give. Why? He may not like it but he’s not as crazy as bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Why? He may not like it but he’s not as crazy as bell. Is that really the game that Houston wants to play with Clowney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 How good do you think Buffalo is going to be? If they have plans of a playoff run you offer a 1 for Clowney. Assuming that's a percieved high pick and you feel it's a late first rder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mat68 said: How good do you think Buffalo is going to be? If they have plans of a playoff run you offer a 1 for Clowney. Assuming that's a percieved high pick and you feel it's a late first rder. If you have to pay him 20 mill a year and have to give up a first rounder to boot.......................... it's a no go for Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 slam dunk for a 3rd. possibly 3rd and shaq. clown houghs oliver and star is a monster monster front 4. w the LBs we have behind them we'd do as well as we did last year in terms of yardage (#2) and allow way fewer red zone conversions, along w more sacks and turnovers. that kind of talent lets you be scheme diverse on D and actually be at an advantage (or not at a disadvantage) when facing the pats and other smart teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I would not be against having him.....but the production numbers dont match the perceived value imo ...and I'd bet he's looking north of $20 mil/yr with a huge chunk guaranteed.....which is probably why "Texans talks have stalled".....don't see it in McBeane's wheel house..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I would not be against having him.....but the production numbers dont match the perceived value imo Unfortunately his athleticism and versatility allow him to impact more than just sack numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Unfortunately his athleticism and versatility allow him to impact more than just sack numbers So much like Hughes.....who I love.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Maybe his personal production doesn't match the contract he wants, but what is his impact on the other 10 defenders on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So much like Hughes.....who I love.... Well, I meant he can drop into zones, or occupy multiple blockers and anything in between. honestly, a lot of people will think this is a knock but it’d be shades of Mario. Just a big hulking athletic dude that doesn’t need to sell out on a pass rush to be impactful rushing. But can also drop in space too. What is funny though is I’ve never been around folks that care more about a RB pass blocking or wr run blocking but post Rex it’s almost bannable to say clowney can also hang in coverage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 14 hours ago, njbuff said: Maybe his personal production doesn't match the contract he wants, but what is his impact on the other 10 defenders on the field? i do not disagree overall but do you think he continues his impact without Watt and all his money in hand? i think he will impact us less and likely get lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: i do not disagree overall but do you think he continues his impact without Watt and all his money in hand? i think he will impact us less and likely get lazy. Couldn’t tell you. I bet you McBeane already knows the answer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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