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Imagine if we Lee Evans could have played with Allen!

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So the Losman thread about impressing at Clemson got me to post a Losman highlight reel for fun in it, but all it really did was remind me just how good Lee Evans was.  

 

People tend to forget how good Lee Evans was and how bad his luck was to play with crap QB's most of his career.  Can you imagine who good Allen and Evans would be together?  

 

Just bringing some light back on one of the most underrated Ex-Bills players of all time.  

 

 

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Isn't kind of what we're getting with John Brown? A legit deep threat with questionable hands and route running skills. Both guys got stuck playing with bad QBs. 

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2 minutes ago, VW82 said:

Isn't kind of what we're getting with John Brown? A legit deep threat with questionable hands and route running skills.

 

Evans had excellent hands and was a great route runner.  I don't think you are remembering him accurately.  He was poorly used as mostly a deep threat, but he could run the whole route tree and make contested catches.  

 

But yeah, John Brown can be part of that role for Allen, super excited we signed him and Beasley to work the underneath.  

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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Evans had excellent hands and was a great route runner.  I don't think you are remembering he well.  He was poorly used as mostly a deep threat, but he could run the whole route tree and make contested catches.  

 

You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time. He did have a couple of very productive years for us though, and he had Losman throwing to him so...

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3 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time.

 

We will have to agree to disagree on that one...all good, GO BILLS :)

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19 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Or Eric Moulds? 

 

In that case it would be, "Imagine if Josh Allen got to play with Eric Moulds".

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Just now, Chicken Boo said:

 

In that case it would be, "Imagine if Josh Allen got to play with Eric Moulds".

Thanks for keeping it real—then I would’ve probably posted, “Or Lee Evans?” :D

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11 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time. He did have a couple of very productive years for us though, and he had Losman throwing to him so...

Seemed to me like Lee Evans was CONSISTANTLY open.....especially on his deep routes

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Seemed to me like Lee Evans was CONSISTANTLY open.....especially on his deep routes

 

He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30.  

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Just now, VW82 said:

 

He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30.  

I think that was more scheme and how he was played in the offense....but that is jmo

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I kind of feel that Losman made Evans look better than he was. Evans did not play above his size or fight for the ball well. He had reliable hands, but didn’t offer much after the catch unless he was already behind the defense.

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If Lee Evans was with Peyton Manning, he would have had Marvin Harrison’s career.

44 minutes ago, Troll Toll said:

I kind of feel that Losman made Evans look better than he was. Evans did not play above his size or fight for the ball well. He had reliable hands, but didn’t offer much after the catch unless he was already behind the defense.

You’re right.  Evans was definitely holding JP back from stardom. 

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If Lee Evans was with Peyton Manning, he would have had Marvin Harrison’s career.

You’re right.  Evans was definitely holding JP back from stardom. 

Marvin was a threat in the whole route tree. Evans could mainly just get open deep and catch uncontested passes. He was a non-factor when he went to the Ravens. My post was not insinuating Losman was some great QB. Losman’s only strength was the deep ball, which matched Evans’ only strength. When Evans played with QBs who struggled with the deep pass he seemed to disappear. Without Losman his numbers reflected those of a modest #3 receiver, catching less than 50 passes almost every year without him.

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Imagine if Lee Evans wanted to run crossing routes.

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You lost me at "Losman highlight reel"..

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It sucks his career is going to be remembered for the drop in the Ravens/Pats AFCC, because he was a very good player for us on horrible teams. Even more surprising was that he stayed professional and never requested a trade or expressing any sort of displeasure in spite of having every reason to do so.

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5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Or Eric Moulds? 

I am, and he resides in Oxford!!

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5 hours ago, VW82 said:

 

He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30.  

Exactly how I remember him as well. It’s funny how the years go by and fans often remember the same player quite differently. I recall a guy who was shut out in a lot of games. There were so many games where he was a complete non factor, which is not what you want out of a number one WR. When he was unable to make big plays his game seemed non existent at times. Whether it was the player or the scheme could be debated. I’ll always remember him as a slightly above average player with great speed, but not as an elite talent.

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...he'd still have been crap. 

 

Overrated player. 

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3 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

It sucks his career is going to be remembered for the drop in the Ravens/Pats AFCC, because he was a very good player for us on horrible teams. Even more surprising was that he stayed professional and never requested a trade or expressing any sort of displeasure in spite of having every reason to do so.

 

Wasn't Lee Evans the guy who talked about working on being able to run a full route tree... entering year 7?  I always thought he was seriously overrated by Bills fans, and possibly still is.  Chris Kelsay never complained or requested a trade, either.  

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How about we imagine a WR that isnt old and didn't suck.

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Evans was an absolute stud. People who are saying he couldn’t run the whole tree are ridiculous 

 

he was phenomenal. Most receivers don’t even make it till 30...

 

was Aaron Schobel bad because he couldn’t do anything anywhere else? No , he was a beast

 

Evans absolutely made the most of a terrible situation 

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