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It’s actually pretty easy if they take a rb you know one is getting cut.

 

if zay Jones sucks again he can get cut too especially if they take a wr in the first 2 rounds.

 

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1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

 

Maybe cut Vlad, keep Bodine?  What do you think?

 

As other have said in previous threads............Bodine only plays at Center, keeping him on the roster makes no sense.

Spencer Long makes him expendable.

He may go to camp but I really doubt he makes the 53.

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3 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

 

Maybe cut Vlad, keep Bodine?  What do you think?

 

Id probably cut both. But if I had to choose probably keep bodine 

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30 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I see a bunch of no brainer cuts on the roster right now.  Won’t be an issue 

I’ll bet anyone $100 they don’t make 10 picks.  I can easily see them trade 3rd and both 4ths and get back into round 2.  Some kind of deal like that will happen. 

That’s what I am thinking. The strength of this draft is on day 2. I would bet anything (assuming that they don’t trade for a vet before) that the Bills pick AT LEAST 4 times before the end of day 2. They want to take 4 guys before pick 100.

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42 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I see a bunch of no brainer cuts on the roster right now.  Won’t be an issue 

I’ll bet anyone $100 they don’t make 10 picks.  I can easily see them trade 3rd and both 4ths and get back into round 2.  Some kind of deal like that will happen. 

 

I've been thinking this for a while and now that we have picked up this many FA's I am even more convinced. We will use our late round picks to move up for specific guys in rounds 1 through 4.

37 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Who’s the best punter coming out of college?

 

Might as well use a late pick on him. 

 

I think Cory Carter will be our guy. I was excited about him last year (as excited as you can be about a punter anyway). He was crushing the ball in preseason.

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2 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

 

I've been thinking this for a while and now that we have picked up this many FA's I am even more convinced. We will use our late round picks to move up for specific guys in rounds 1 through 4.

 

I think Cory Carter will be our guy. I was excited about him last year (as excited as you can be about a punter anyway). He was crushing the ball in preseason.

 

Man, forgot about him.  He definitely looked like a weapon.  

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3 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

 

I've been thinking this for a while and now that we have picked up this many FA's I am even more convinced. We will use our late round picks to move up for specific guys in rounds 1 through 4.

 

I think Cory Carter will be our guy. I was excited about him last year (as excited as you can be about a punter anyway). He was crushing the ball in preseason.

 

Bojorquez hopefully pushes him too.  I just want to not have the worst punter in the NFL, and i feel like we have settled for that since crossman came on board.

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49 minutes ago, sven233 said:

There are plenty of names on this list that can be let go without a problem. 

 

I know Bills fans aren't used to having real NFL talent as depth, but that is the way good teams are structured.  Finally we will have capable replacements if someone goes down and the talent won't just fall off a cliff.  Welcome back to having a real NFL roster, guys.......

This is such a good point, our depth has usually felt a little "hope and a prayer" their are stacks of guys in many spots now- Nice.

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Cut Ducasse, Murphy, Zay, DiMarco to start

Bodine was actually serviceable last year so I think keeping him would be fine.

 

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1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I see a bunch of no brainer cuts on the roster right now.  Won’t be an issue 

I’ll bet anyone $100 they don’t make 10 picks.  I can easily see them trade 3rd and both 4ths and get back into round 2.  Some kind of deal like that will happen. 

Sounds like a plan..

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I hope to never read about cap space again

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

My question is......

 

We have signed so many free agents this year what do we do with the 10 draft picks?

 

I understand that round 1-3 will be logical understandable choices.......but we have picks AFTER the 3rd round

This regime traded up for Dawkins, Jones, Allen, and Edmunds.  I doubt we end up with 10 new players from the draft.  

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There's 65 now, easy to cut 12:

 

There's 11 WRs on roster (including Roberts the return guy), easy 5 cuts there

1 RB goes

11 Olinemen - there's 3 more

7 CBs and 5 safeties - they'll probably keep 5 and 4 so cut 3

2 punters 1 goes

 

You're down to 52 and there's 5 DEs and 5 DTs so 2 more cuts there. 

 

If you look at the list there's easy cuts in those position groups. Maybe some get picked up but isn't that what you want? 

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2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Who’s going to Punt?

 

No one. Every offensive series is going to end in a score for us ☝️

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2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

We currently have 65 players on the roster with our new free agent signings.  I believe that number includes ten players from last year's practice squad, so more accurately 55 + 10 practice squad.  Next month we will be adding ten draft picks to the roster bringing us to 65 + 10.  Assuming that only half of our draft picks make the final roster (which I hope is a low estimate) that means we need to cut 17 players from the current roster. 

 

Right now available roster spots is becoming a bigger limitation than remaining cap space $$$.  Every free agent signed means another cut to the roster.  I'm sure Beane is weighing this consideration as he continues to shop for new free agents. 

 

Below is a link to a web site called sportrac that lists the entire current 65 man roster.  There is a "Release" button next to every player on the roster that allows you to cut players from the roster like you're a GM.  There is box on the right hand side of the page that keeps track of your totals.  Find 17 cuts on that roster right now to get to 48 roster spots (assuming 5 currently unlisted draftees make the final roster).  At some point you're no longer cutting fat, your cutting meat from the roster.  It's not easy to find 17 to cut, and once again, that assumes only keeping 5 out of the 10 draft picks.

 

We can roll some cap money over to next year and use to some to extend current players.  Looking at it from a roster point of view, I think our free agency is just about done.  Maybe Ziggy or one other player and thats it.

 

Who are your 17 cuts from the roster to get to 48?

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/buffalo-bills/

 

Here are mine;  (Edited because I cut both of our punters.  Inconceivable!)

 

  1. Released Russell Bodine
    (Saved: $2,306,244)
  2. Released Cory Carter
    (Saved: $495,000)
  3. Released Da'Mari Scott
    (Saved: $570,000)
  4. Released Cam Phillips
    (Saved: $570,000)
  5. Released Mike Love
    (Saved: $570,000)
  6. Released Ryan Lewis
    (Saved: $570,000)
  7. Released Keith Ford
    (Saved: $570,000)
  8. Released Ray-Ray McCloud
    (Saved: $490,088)
  9. Released Kyle Peko
    (Saved: $645,000)
  10. Released Isaiah McKenzie
    (Saved: $645,000)
  11. Released Dean Marlowe
    (Saved: $645,000)
  12. Released Deon Lacey
    (Saved: $645,000)
  13. Released Robert Thomas
    (Saved: $720,000)
  14. Released Denzel Rice
    (Saved: $720,000)
  15. Released Lafayette Pitts
    (Saved: $720,000)
  16. Released Marcus Murphy
    (Saved: $720,000)
  17. Released Corey Thompson
    (Saved: $570,000

Not Dean Marlowe!!!!!

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2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

We currently have 65 players on the roster with our new free agent signings.  I believe that number includes ten players from last year's practice squad, so more accurately 55 + 10 practice squad.  Next month we will be adding ten draft picks to the roster bringing us to 65 + 10.  Assuming that only half of our draft picks make the final roster (which I hope is a low estimate) that means we need to cut 17 players from the current roster. 

 

Right now available roster spots is becoming a bigger limitation than remaining cap space $$$.  Every free agent signed means another cut to the roster.  I'm sure Beane is weighing this consideration as he continues to shop for new free agents. 

 

Below is a link to a web site called sportrac that lists the entire current 65 man roster.  There is a "Release" button next to every player on the roster that allows you to cut players from the roster like you're a GM.  There is box on the right hand side of the page that keeps track of your totals.  Find 17 cuts on that roster right now to get to 48 roster spots (assuming 5 currently unlisted draftees make the final roster).  At some point you're no longer cutting fat, your cutting meat from the roster.  It's not easy to find 17 to cut, and once again, that assumes only keeping 5 out of the 10 draft picks.

 

We can roll some cap money over to next year and use to some to extend current players.  Looking at it from a roster point of view, I think our free agency is just about done.  Maybe Ziggy or one other player and thats it.

 

Who are your 17 cuts from the roster to get to 48?

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/buffalo-bills/

 

Here are mine;  (Edited because I cut both of our punters.  Inconceivable!)

 

  1. Released Russell Bodine
    (Saved: $2,306,244)
  2. Released Cory Carter
    (Saved: $495,000)
  3. Released Da'Mari Scott
    (Saved: $570,000)
  4. Released Cam Phillips
    (Saved: $570,000)
  5. Released Mike Love
    (Saved: $570,000)
  6. Released Ryan Lewis
    (Saved: $570,000)
  7. Released Keith Ford
    (Saved: $570,000)
  8. Released Ray-Ray McCloud
    (Saved: $490,088)
  9. Released Kyle Peko
    (Saved: $645,000)
  10. Released Isaiah McKenzie
    (Saved: $645,000)
  11. Released Dean Marlowe
    (Saved: $645,000)
  12. Released Deon Lacey
    (Saved: $645,000)
  13. Released Robert Thomas
    (Saved: $720,000)
  14. Released Denzel Rice
    (Saved: $720,000)
  15. Released Lafayette Pitts
    (Saved: $720,000)
  16. Released Marcus Murphy
    (Saved: $720,000)
  17. Released Corey Thompson
    (Saved: $570,000

Ive said for a while now, we will not make 10 selections in the draft.

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From your list the only one that hurts a bit is Isiah McKenzie.  Also, Beane does seem to like moving up a bit to make sure he gets his target.  They've done that multiple times in the past 2 years.  I also have to believe that it would be tough have both Gore and Ivory both on the team with a 3rd stringer making over $2m.  Finally, I would wonder whether it would be possible to cut Derek Anderson, hire him as a Offensive/QB Assistant of some sort and then just re-sign him if an injury calls for it??  Not sure how that last one would work

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Shouldnt we let training camp and injury issues play out a bit first?

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2 hours ago, stevewin said:

Small point - but I don't see Beane keeping all the draft picks - I bet he packages some to move up at least once

 

Trade some for more picks next year perhaps? 

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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

My question is......

 

We have signed so many free agents this year what do we do with the 10 draft picks?

 

I understand that round 1-3 will be logical understandable choices.......but we have picks AFTER the 3rd round

Well.........we still don’t have a  #1 WR.  We don’t have a top 10 TE.  We need another DT.  We need another edge rusher.  We need a young RB.  We could use another DB for depth.  We have very little good LB depth.  Our punter sucks.  

 

There’s still lots to do John

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Just now, NewEra said:

Well.........we still don’t have a  #1 WR.  We don’t have a top 10 TE.  We need another DT.  We need another edge rusher.  We need a young RB.  We could use another DB for depth.  We have very little good LB depth.  Our punter sucks.  

 

There’s still lots to do John

So which one of these WR's we just signed in free agency are we gonna cut?

 

Yes TE is a need

Yes DT is a need

Yes OT is a need

Yes RB is a need

 

That is 4 players (that is why I said roughly the first 3 rounds predictable....but we have TEN picks.

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Good thread. All the more reason we should be looking to either trade up or trade our lowers picks this year for slightly better picks next year. I agree with all the cut decisions by OP.

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10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

So which one of these WR's we just signed in free agency are we gonna cut?

 

Yes TE is a need

Yes DT is a need

Yes OT is a need

Yes RB is a need

 

That is 4 players (that is why I said roughly the first 3 rounds predictable....but we have TEN picks.

Tough call.  I could see them bypassing WR altogether in the draft minus a late round flyer.  I could see McKenzie getting the axe.  I like him a lot, but he has to be able to hold onto the ball or he’s useless imo.  Duke williams is a complete unknown.  I’m REEALLY intrigued by his upside and aggression.  We need a WR with some muscle.  

 

See how these guys pan out and go from there next year?  Foster and brown on opposites sides running deep opening the middle for Beasley, kroft and hopefully another TE.  Not to mention our RBs and josh Allen scrambling 

 

Edit:  and thats why why I also included Lb/DB depth and punter.  3 late rd picks ....

Edited by NewEra

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Tough call.  I could see them bypassing WR altogether in the draft minus a late round flyer.  I could see McKenzie getting the axe.  I like him a lot, but he has to be able to hold onto the ball or he’s useless imo.  Duke williams is a complete unknown.  I’m REEALLY intrigued by his upside and aggression.  We need a WR with some muscle.  

 

See how these guys pan out and go from there next year?  Foster and brown on opposites sides running deep opening the middle for Beasley, kroft and hopefully another TE.  Not to mention our RBs and josh Allen scrambling 

I think it is also important to note that not every need this team has is gonna get filled this offseason

 

Obviously a lot has been addressed.....I wonder if the bills decide to take some of those later round picks and not only trade up....but also trade them into the next year for better selections.

 

This team has always biult through the draft

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Shaq Lawson will be traded or released before 1st. preseason game and think in 2nd day of the draft

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