Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
FluffHead

KR/WR Andre Roberts (Jets) to Bills

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Opportunity cost.  The more time they spend worrying about him, the less they have to worry about what else we're doing.  I'm not going to dream he's gonna be a great 5th WR, but this changes strategy a bit.  Do they draft guys who are better at ST now?  Does it telegraph no way to Metcalf?  It scream we draft a WR later, to go with RB, and QB.  We always draft a LB and CB later.  I think I just nailed our last 5 picks. Now if only I knew the first 5.  I think 2 picks are spent on maneuvering at least(up or down).

Edited by daz28

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Opportunity cost.  The more time they spend worrying about him, the less they have to worry about what else we're doing.  I'm not going to dream he's gonna be a great 5th WR, but this changes strategy a bit.  Do they draft guys who are better at ST now?  Does it telegraph no way to Metcalf?  It scream we draft a WR later, to go with RB, and QB.  We always draft a LB and CB later.  I think I just nailed our last 5 picks. Now if only I knew the first 5.  I think 2 picks are spent on maneuvering at least(up or down).

 A KR/PR is about the least important role ever on the team if you understand opportunity cost. You're better off getting players on both sides of the ball who are actually good than paying a player over the mininum and designating a roster spot for this.

 

Worst comes to worse you sign an a MLB outfielder prospect or a defensive midfielder or a defender in soccer and tell them to just fair catch it everytime if it's touching the ground outside the 15

Edited by Ol Dirty B

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 A KR/PR is about the least important role ever on the team if you understand opportunity cost. You're better off getting players on both sides of the ball who are actually good than paying a player over the mininum and designating a roster spot for this.

And this is where I think Roberts is a good signing. I cannot say why he hasn't been used much as a WR in the past couple of years, but he's absolutely capable of producing at the position. I used Brandon Tate as an example in my other post since we are familiar with him here and he's also a somewhat accomplished return man...

 

Tate has(had?) 71 career receptions at WR. Roberts had 64 in 2012 with the Cardinals. From 2011 to 2014 he had 4 decent seasons for a complimentary receiving option and then his last few teams haven't used him much there. I'd much rather have a guy like this as the 5th or 6th WR than someone like Tate or Bolden or whoever that offered next to nothing as an offensive player.

 

  • Like (+1) 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay. I'm going to go WAAAAAAY out on a limb here and predict that we won't be seeing anymore of this happening...

 

KR isn't important... got it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

During the drought we had so many amazing Returners. Now it seems like a bit since we have had a good one. This guy is the best in the business. Love this move and hopefully we can block it up and have a few returns without penalties.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like this addition. He averaged 14.09 yards on punt returns compared to the Bills team average of 6.68. That's 7.4 yards of extra field position per return. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, JM57 said:

And this is where I think Roberts is a good signing. I cannot say why he hasn't been used much as a WR in the past couple of years, but he's absolutely capable of producing at the position. I used Brandon Tate as an example in my other post since we are familiar with him here and he's also a somewhat accomplished return man...

 

Tate has(had?) 71 career receptions at WR. Roberts had 64 in 2012 with the Cardinals. From 2011 to 2014 he had 4 decent seasons for a complimentary receiving option and then his last few teams haven't used him much there. I'd much rather have a guy like this as the 5th or 6th WR than someone like Tate or Bolden or whoever that offered next to nothing as an offensive player.

 

^^^

 

Try to imagine a situation where at the end of every punt return the refs throw a flag, and give us an extra 7.4 yards. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This guy had multiple huge returns against us in our loss to the Jets last year didn't he? Heck, even if he doesn't do much for us, that could mean one more W in the win column just by the fact that we don't have to face him twice.

On 3/13/2019 at 4:33 PM, Rico said:

Ray Ray first.

Ray Ray showed so much promise last pre-season with Allen. I want to see what he can do again this year. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, OldNMBillsFan said:

I like this addition. He averaged 14.09 yards on punt returns compared to the Bills team average of 6.68. That's 7.4 yards of extra field position per return. 

The fact that Crossman is gone will account for an extra 7 yards on returns. I just remember Roberts destroyed us last year, especially in that 2nd game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Special teams are SOO underrated.

 

they can win (or lose) you games. That’s why Crossman was so frustrating last season. 

 

Call me crazy but but I think this may be the best signing of all the guys we got. He’s a game changer. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Andre Roberts’ two-year deal with Buffalo:
$1M signing bonus 2019: $2M base salary (fully guaranteed), $100,00 workout bonus, $250,000 receptions incentive
2020: $1.3M salary, $100,000 roster bonus due fifth day of LY, $100,000 workout bonus, $250,000 receptions incentive.
 
I like the receptions incentive.  I think he is a lot better catcher than has been shown during his journeyman part of career.
Make sure his eyes are checked.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Idandria said:

Special teams are SOO underrated.

 

they can win (or lose) you games. That’s why Crossman was so frustrating last season. 

 

Call me crazy but but I think this may be the best signing of all the guys we got. He’s a game changer. 

 

Okay, you're crazy.

 

This was so much more true 10, even 5, years  ago. There are many ways around special teams risks in the modern NFL. Any coach preaching a three phase game is equally important doesn't actually think that. 

 

To think he'll have more impact on this team than the other 7 FA offensive players (4 starters, ateast) is down right certifiable. I should know. I am emotionally unstable.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Okay, you're crazy.

 

This was so much more true 10, even 5, years  ago. There are many ways around special teams risks in the modern NFL. Any coach preaching a three phase game is equally important doesn't actually think that. 

 

To think he'll have more impact on this team than the other 7 FA offensive players (4 starters, ateast) is down right certifiable. I should know. I am emotionally unstable.

 

 

In a close game decided by 7 points or less, a huge kick returner or a allowing a hugh return can be all the difference in the world.

 

Starting from inside your own 10 or starting at the 50 can be the difference for an offense scoring. Roberts gets some big returns in a close game can easily translate into points. 

  • Like (+1) 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...