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Just now, YattaOkasan said:

Agreed we can maneuver.  But based on the available cap and the front loaded contracts we've given; do you see us giving out more than one big contract?

 

Hell no - we will do 1 if it is right. I don't see us giving up picks

 

My guess is that we will look to see who gets cut in the coming days/weeks and sign a few value contracts if there is anything worth going after. After that we go into the draft, grab players, make some cuts based on the draft and sign sign other teams post draft cuts. Then we will make sure we have enough numbers for camp. 

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Just now, Reed83HOF said:

 

Hell no - we will do 1 if it is right. I don't see us giving up picks

 

My guess is that we will look to see who gets cut in the coming days/weeks and sign a few value contracts if there is anything worth going after. After that we go into the draft, grab players, make some cuts based on the draft and sign sign other teams post draft cuts. Then we will make sure we have enough numbers for camp. 

Agreed.  I just saw some wild numbers being thrown around in the thread.  Wanted to pump the brakes a bit.  As I said I think they can maneuver.  Also thanks for putting this together.

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1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:

Agreed.  I just saw some wild numbers being thrown around in the thread.  Wanted to pump the brakes a bit.  As I said I think they can maneuver.  Also thanks for putting this together.

As of now it is about $10 million for rookies, and I think you are damn close on the other contracts ($7 mill for Ty + $2 mill for Gore + $4mill for feliciano +$2 for Roberts) = is $25 mill projected to be spent. $43 mill - $25 mill = $18 million left. I would expect that we want to roll money forward as well, but everything is dependent on who we want to go after; there is plenty to go around if need be. 

 

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It is truly incredible what Beane has accomplished in this UFA period.  The "pay as you go" model he has employed has given us incredible flexibility in the coming years, with the "worst" cap hit we'd have next year if we were to cut a newly-signed player (aside from Morse) being Cole Beasley at $4.5m, netting a savings of $2.6m.  If John Brown were to bust, for example, his dead cap number would be $3.2m and net us $6.5m in savings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2020/

Amazing...

Edited by N.Y. Orangeman
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On 3/12/2019 at 2:05 PM, Foxx said:

we need to save some for next year...

BILLS 2020 CAP TOTALS

yup  they are down to $98 Mil for 2020 

 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2020/

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How does it make sense to roll over money to next year if we are in fact in a projected great cap situation next year? It is not like you are getting interest on cap roll overs. Spend it now and make this season count. Otherwise a foolish waste of resources needed to win.

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11 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

It is truly incredible what Beane has accomplished in this UFA period.  The "pay as you go" model he has employed has given us incredible flexibility in the coming years, with the "worst" cap hit we'd have next year if we were to cut a newly-signed player (aside from Morse) being Cole Beasley at $4.5m, netting a savings of $2.6m.  If John Brown were to bust, for example, his dead cap number would be $3.2m and net us $6.5m in savings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2020/

Amazing...

It is outstanding, plus if we really wanted to squeeze other players they can get creative, but if we don't have to they won't. It's nice to have an owner with deep pockets as well

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Just now, simpleman said:

How does it make sense to roll over money to next year if we are in fact in a projected great cap situation next year? It is not like you are getting interest on cap roll overs. Spend it now and make this season count. Otherwise a foolish waste of resources needed to win.

 

I believe it was sarcasm to roll it over 

 

but I've been known to be wrong now and then 

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Posted (edited)

 

Also the site identified about 36 active contracts for 2020 

 

and 17 players under contract for 2021 

BILLS 2021 CAP TOTALS

Edited by ShadyBillsFan

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1 minute ago, simpleman said:

How does it make sense to roll over money to next year if we are in fact in a projected great cap situation next year? It is not like you are getting interest on cap roll overs. Spend it now and make this season count. Otherwise a foolish waste of resources needed to win.

Don't spend it on crappy players, but you also have to look at  expiring contracts such as Jerry Hughes = roll over $10 million next season and that gives you can "extra" $10 million next season to give him as a bonus payable in year one, which cuts down on dead cap if he has to be cut free later. 

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Just now, N.Y. Orangeman said:

Cut Trent Murphy.....$105m... :)

 

 

the Bills may keep him this season to get over the Leagues Minimum spending cap # 

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Also, we rolled over $8.7 to this cap, which cancels out our dead cap coincidentally

 

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It's 12:30 in the afternoon now.  No signings announced today yet!  What's Beane doing, out playing golf?  What a deplorable front office!!

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1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

It's 12:30 in the afternoon now.  No signings announced today yet!  What's Beane doing, out playing golf?  What a deplorable front office!!

 

 

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1 hour ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

It is truly incredible what Beane has accomplished in this UFA period.  The "pay as you go" model he has employed has given us incredible flexibility in the coming years, with the "worst" cap hit we'd have next year if we were to cut a newly-signed player (aside from Morse) being Cole Beasley at $4.5m, netting a savings of $2.6m.  If John Brown were to bust, for example, his dead cap number would be $3.2m and net us $6.5m in savings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2020/

Amazing...

 

Ironically, there’s a good bit of overlap between this new found “pay as you go” and the much maligned “cash to cap” in that you aren’t amortizing big bonuses to reduce cap hit and create space at the expense of flexibility to cut. 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

 

the Bills may keep him this season to get over the Leagues Minimum spending cap # 

No need to do that....lets trade for Duke Johnson with one of those latter 10 picks and pick up his contract

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The next round of activity is likely to be a wait and see who gets cut from other teams situation.  Beane does not seem eager to spend every dime available and I would have to guess he is leaving some money available to take actions later.  I really can’t wait for the draft because if it is solid camp will be really interesting.

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2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Ironically, there’s a good bit of overlap between this new found “pay as you go” and the much maligned “cash to cap” in that you aren’t amortizing big bonuses to reduce cap hit and create space at the expense of flexibility to cut. 

 

 

Yes.........but of course nowadays most teams have tons of cap space and are no longer pushing cap hits down the road the way they were then.

 

Back then the Bills were basically tying one hand behind their back in a league where you had to pay big signing bonuses because NOBODY was guaranteeing base salaries back then.

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On 3/12/2019 at 2:04 PM, John from Riverside said:

There are guys that can still be released for more savings as well still

 

Which brings up the question: Why hasn't McCoy been cut? Am I missing something?

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Just now, first_and_ten said:

 

Which brings up the question: Why hasn't McCoy been cut? Am I missing something?

I think the thought process is his down year last year was because our OL was putrid

 

We will see

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I think the thought process is his down year last year was because our OL was putrid

 

We will see

 

 

That is true, but he has a 9 million  dollar cap hit. They could get a younger player for more then half that. He looked like he lost a step last year. He was missing holes. 

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down to 42.8mil per spotrac, but gore (2mil), roberts (2.5mil), ty(6-7mil???), Feliciano (4mil) are not in yet.  Just not sure on what tys contract was should put us around 27mil with 10 going to rookies, gives us still 17mil.  I think the bills are done with FA.  They made a ton of moves over the last few days.  Im really excited about what OBD has done.  Team will look totally different next season and we have some nice draft capital coming up.  I would have to say bills will be looking at DT/DE at pick 9.  

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13 minutes ago, bkep32 said:

down to 42.8mil per spotrac, but gore (2mil), roberts (2.5mil), ty(6-7mil???), Feliciano (4mil) are not in yet.  Just not sure on what tys contract was should put us around 27mil with 10 going to rookies, gives us still 17mil.  I think the bills are done with FA.  They made a ton of moves over the last few days.  Im really excited about what OBD has done.  Team will look totally different next season and we have some nice draft capital coming up.  I would have to say bills will be looking at DT/DE at pick 9.  

Unless something changes which it litterly could at any moment, then I would agree that DT / DE look like a need at 9.  There are so many possibilities though.  A star DT or Pass rusher would all but finish the Defense but a star TE or LT would be so great for Allen.  I think I want a TE but my mind says D / O line.   Man it's gonna be fun 😊.  

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