WR Cole Beasley (Dallas) to the Bills

[John from Riverside]

This guy is a 3rd down monster

[FreeMaxB585]

7 hours ago, Nanker said:

That’s a ridiculous assertion. Next year The Bills will have MORE Cap room than they had THIS year. 

Time to elevate your horizons. 

 

you miss the point. due to those contracts and other guys on defense we need to reseign we will end up being out bid for high level wr's that are worth it. there is multiple guys who are getting extensions giving these bums that much is a waste even if front loaded

15 hours ago, akm0404 said:

Which free agent receivers would have put us in the playoffs? Apparently there were a ton of superstars out there that wanted to come to Buffalo that Beane told to go pound sand...

 

and you think beasley and brown will put us anywhere close to the playoffs? LOL

[daz28]

16 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

instead of the ridiculous money we spent especially on that injury prone tight end whose never had a good season we couldve least gotten him jared cook a pro bowler from oakland, brown and beasley for that $ is terrible value. next eyar there is multiple top notch wr's that we have no chance at getting now

You are completely missing the point of what people are trying to tell you.  If we don't like what we see from any of these players, or we see a FA next year that we like better, we can cut them at little cap hit.  Well we have to keep Cole for 2 years or it's 4.5 hit.

 

We finally got an Edelmen/Amendola of our own.  After being eaten up by these guys for God knows how long it just feels great to have one.  Sure, Josh isn't going to get the ball to him like Brady would, but if it turns out that he doesn't fit our scheme/team, then we simply flush him.  Players understand this is a business, and they understood that it can happen when they signed these deals.  The absolute best part of these contracts Beaner put together is they KNOW they are on prove it deals, and they are up for the challenge.  They know if they play poorly it is gonna really hurt them in the pocket next year if they get cut.  

Edited March 13, 2019 by daz28

[FreeMaxB585]

There is no excuse to get beasley and brown for that over tyrell williams.

 

same with the tight end we couldve gotten jared cook over an injury prone guy whose never proved anything in the league

Edited March 13, 2019 by FreeMaxB585

[akm0404]

1 hour ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

you miss the point. due to those contracts and other guys on defense we need to reseign we will end up being out bid for high level wr's that are worth it. there is multiple guys who are getting extensions giving these bums that much is a waste even if front loaded

 

and you think beasley and brown will put us anywhere close to the playoffs? LOL

 

You negelected to answer my question:

 

Which free agent receiver would have been the one to take the team to the playoffs that the team ultra blundered on not signing (as if they can force a player to sign somewhere but we will ignore that inconvenient fact)?

[buffaloboyinATL]

17 hours ago, sven233 said:

Great response! lol, love it. Except, now let's win.

[FreeMaxB585]

3 hours ago, akm0404 said:

 

You negelected to answer my question:

 

Which free agent receiver would have been the one to take the team to the playoffs that the team ultra blundered on not signing (as if they can force a player to sign somewhere but we will ignore that inconvenient fact)?

 

to think this team is a wr away from the playoffs is insane. we need much more than that. But if we grabbed Tyrell Williams and Jared Cook for the tight end wed be 1000x better off. we grabbed an injury prone TE who has never proved anything, Jared Cook is a top 3-5 catching TE....Tyrell Williams has the upside, the athletic ability and would have been a way better move than average guys with not much upside. Cook wouldve been  way better than what we got and I wouldve taken Just williams, and drafted a wr instead of shelling out money to bums even if it is front loaded

 

Especially if the front loaded is the argument and its a 1-2 year spot, give the money to golden tate on a 1-2 year deal. or even a big possession wr like crabtree who has a solid 1-2 years left

 

even if we were set on a speed slot guy couldve even got cordelle patterson for HALF the $ we gave beasley

 

we also have way more draft capital than the browns, we couldve power played OBJ and our first and a 3rd, which we have a good bit of picks and beat the browns offer

Edited March 13, 2019 by FreeMaxB585
another thing

[akm0404]

You were the one that said that the Bills WR signings wasn’t going to bring them to the playoffs, not me. I asked you which signing would have, and you now concede that there weren’t any. Cool. 

 

What leads you to think Tyrell Williams or Jared Cook wanted to work in Buffalo? You realize Beane doesn’t get to order free agents off a menu, right?

[Beast]

Anyone wants some good laughs, go to YouTube and search Cole Beasley.

[FreeMaxB585]

24 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

You were the one that said that the Bills WR signings wasn’t going to bring them to the playoffs, not me. I asked you which signing would have, and you now concede that there weren’t any. Cool. 

 

What leads you to think Tyrell Williams or Jared Cook wanted to work in Buffalo? You realize Beane doesn’t get to order free agents off a menu, right?

 

those alone wouldnt because we need O line help to but Williams would have been perfect in his prime, Allen needs a legit deep threat and he averages nearly the most in the league per reception. we couldve got him or least made a play on him. Cook is still sitting around and we were quick to give nearly 7 million a year on an injury prone bum and TE

 

again if the whole debate is well if beasley and brown are bad the contracts are front loaded, well if its a 1-2 year rental give the money to crabtree or tate, and give allen an actual legit deep threat, hes not a tom brady yet where all these slot pieces will work we had a chance to get people in their prime not washed up scrubs

 

im kinda ok with brown, beasley not at all

Edited March 13, 2019 by FreeMaxB585

[gobills1212]

24 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

to think this team is a wr away from the playoffs is insane. we need much more than that. But if we grabbed Tyrell Williams and Jared Cook for the tight end wed be 1000x better off. we grabbed an injury prone TE who has never proved anything, Jared Cook is a top 3-5 catching TE....Tyrell Williams has the upside, the athletic ability and would have been a way better move than average guys with not much upside. Cook wouldve been  way better than what we got and I wouldve taken Just williams, and drafted a wr instead of shelling out money to bums even if it is front loaded

My dear boy, i think you seem to have greatly missed the boat on how things seem to be done around here - the plan that appears to be in place- and the overall picture as to how this team is being shaped under the current regime. If its big names you want, maybe OAK needs another 'fan' bc until the winning starts, you will be gravely dissapointed. These signings are appropriate and on point. Do you know something our GM and most NFL pundits dont? Its been proven time and time again that names dont = wins. This team spent 2 years digging themselves out of a hole that a GM who was worried about his job and just threw $ at names made...and YOU are calling other people insane?!? yikes

 

Edited March 13, 2019 by gobills1212

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

those alone wouldnt because we need O line help to but Williams would have been perfect in his prime, Allen needs a legit deep threat and he averages nearly the most in the league per reception. we couldve got him or least made a play on him. Cook is still sitting around and we were quick to give nearly 7 million a year on an injury prone bum and TE

 

again if the whole debate is well if beasley and brown are bad the contracts are front loaded, well if its a 1-2 year rental give the money to crabtree or tate, and give allen an actual legit deep threat, hes not a tom brady yet where all these slot pieces will work we had a chance to get people in their prime not washed up scrubs

 

Hey! Welcome! Feel free to tell us what you really think. We have some of your people here! 

 

 

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[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

those alone wouldnt because we need O line help to but Williams would have been perfect in his prime, Allen needs a legit deep threat and he averages nearly the most in the league per reception. we couldve got him or least made a play on him. Cook is still sitting around and we were quick to give nearly 7 million a year on an injury prone bum and TE

 

again if the whole debate is well if beasley and brown are bad the contracts are front loaded, well if its a 1-2 year rental give the money to crabtree or tate, and give allen an actual legit deep threat, hes not a tom brady yet where all these slot pieces will work we had a chance to get people in their prime not washed up scrubs

 

We just signed 3 OL players that will/should improve that part. And to the 2nd bolded part if I remember correctly,Foster turned into a legit deep threat WR. IMO Beasley is a good solid WR and will help Allen alot, especially on 3rd downs.

[FLFan]

9 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

those alone wouldnt because we need O line help to but Williams would have been perfect in his prime, Allen needs a legit deep threat and he averages nearly the most in the league per reception. we couldve got him or least made a play on him. Cook is still sitting around and we were quick to give nearly 7 million a year on an injury prone bum and TE

 

again if the whole debate is well if beasley and brown are bad the contracts are front loaded, well if its a 1-2 year rental give the money to crabtree or tate, and give allen an actual legit deep threat, hes not a tom brady yet where all these slot pieces will work we had a chance to get people in their prime not washed up scrubs

Facts are you friend.  https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/receiving-yards-per-catch

 

Brown average per coach is higher than Williams, who despite your opinion has proved nothing to date.  Also, by the way, Foster had a yards per catch of 20, but does not make this list because he only had 27 receptions. (Threshold is 30). The Bills have 2 legitimate deep threats.  No thanks on Jared Cook.  He is still sitting around for a reason.

[gobills1212]

7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

 

We just signed 3 OL players that will/should improve that part. And to the 2nd bolded part if I remember correctly,Foster turned into a legit deep threat WR. IMO Beasley is a good solid WR and will help Allen alot, especially on 3rd downs.

Ya, but he prob has never head of any of them sssooooooo.... we get treated to this??

[FreeMaxB585]

19 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Facts are you friend.  https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/receiving-yards-per-catch

 

Brown average per coach is higher than Williams, who despite your opinion has proved nothing to date.  Also, by the way, Foster had a yards per catch of 20, but does not make this list because he only had 27 receptions. (Threshold is 30). The Bills have 2 legitimate deep threats.  No thanks on Jared Cook.  He is still sitting around for a reason.

 

williams was higher if look ad advanced stats, it went down because he caught a bunch of screens late season. and yes williams has proved he can play big time. and isnt turning 30. williams went down a dip last year because they spread the ball around to everyone including their RB. I wouldve loved williams and brown. all im saying is williams>>>>brown. but wouldve loved both, I can live with brown, but he was also on a team with nobody else around and got more looks (besides a washed up larry). you go ask anyone in the league who is better and all will say williams its why so many teams went mainly after him as the only wr they wanted, and hes coming into his prime and is years younger. most teams agreed and made big plays for him I can live with brown. Williams has 100x the upside. 6 ft 4 huge target for allen, just turned 27 , has already shown he can have a 1k yard season when only started 12 games, its always a lock for either 6-700, for the red zone one of the best jump ball wr's in the league. Brown is solid but we over paid a bit, it can be lived with beasley is wasted money even front loaded crabtree and tate wouldve been better for allen

 

We really couldve topped giants offer on obj to

 

Dont forget Brown has sickle cell, a lot of teams did medical reports and didnt even offer him a penny cause of that risk

 

Beasley not so much, we couldve front loaded crabtree or tate and gotten much better value than a mediocre guy.

 

biggest problem was not making a play for cook or a tight end not coming off an injury who has never done anything. we got fleeced by his agent on that contract. there were multiple other tight ends wed be better off with imo, and a few draftable ones, cant believe how much we gave him

17 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

Ya, but he prob has never head of any of them sssooooooo.... we get treated to this??

 

I am well aware...already discussed in the other thread that 1 was a for sure 1 good sign, 1 we over paid and is meh, the other is a toss up, wont even go into specifics and detail the current thread topic

Edited March 13, 2019 by FreeMaxB585

[JoPar_v2]

4 hours ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

There is no excuse to get beasley and brown for that over tyrell williams.

 

same with the tight end we couldve gotten jared cook over an injury prone guy whose never proved anything in the league

 

You think tyrell williams is really that much better than john brown? 

[MacGyver]

2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Great response! lol, love it. Except, now let's win.

 

I like him already!  

[FreeMaxB585]

9 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

You think tyrell williams is really that much better than john brown? 

 

 

 

 

 

yes he is younger and right in his prime. he is also 6 ft 4. brown is 5.10. big target who is one of the best red zone catchers on fade routes as well. is why so many went after hard and he is years younger, last year was chargers main deep threat, they just had so many guys to spread it do receptions were down a bit. id rather have him over brown and beasley together

 

I just think not giving Cook a 2 year deal was a mistake over an injury prone guy whose never proven he can produce, not for the $ we gave

[Big C]

7 minutes ago, FreeMaxB585 said:

 

 

 

 

 

yes he is younger and right in his prime. he is also 6 ft 4. brown is 5.10. big target who is one of the best red zone catchers on fade routes as well. is why so many went after hard and he is years younger, last year was chargers main deep threat, they just had so many guys to spread it do receptions were down a bit. id rather have him over brown and beasley together

 

I just think not giving Cook a 2 year deal was a mistake over an injury prone guy whose never proven he can produce, not for the $ we gave

 

Gonna have to wait and see what Cook gets before drawing any conclusions like that. Cook is coming off a career year and I'll bet he is looking for a lot more than we gave Kroft.

 

And there are some stud TEs in this draft. 

Edited March 13, 2019 by Big C