Buddo Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: In his interview with John Murphy, Beane sounded to me like he is done with Ziggy. Didn't say It exactly, but his tone and how he said things sounded like the Bills have decided they aren't interested. Ziggy's price will have to come down. I've not heard the interview, but I did see his comments at the PC after the signings. I think you're right, and it is why I said earlier, that it wouldn't surprise me if we signed him eventually, for decent money. Decent money being towards, but below, $10 million per, probably around $8 million per. I think that's the price point they are interested at, assuming the shoulder checks out ok, and I suspect Ansah was wanting north of $10 million per. I'd also say that that is the top end of what he will get, eventually ($8million per) as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of interest in him atm, likely based off of money demands being known, but also possibly because he couldn't currently pass a physical (guess). Earlier in the thread, someone quoted me and wondered how I knew the shoulder was ok. I absolutely do not. Please read my earlier post again, it simply doesn't say that, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I haven't slept in 3 days 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Buddo said: I've not heard the interview, but I did see his comments at the PC after the signings. I think you're right, and it is why I said earlier, that it wouldn't surprise me if we signed him eventually, for decent money. Decent money being towards, but below, $10 million per, probably around $8 million per. I think that's the price point they are interested at, assuming the shoulder checks out ok, and I suspect Ansah was wanting north of $10 million per. I'd also say that that is the top end of what he will get, eventually ($8million per) as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of interest in him atm, likely based off of money demands being known, but also possibly because he couldn't currently pass a physical (guess). Earlier in the thread, someone quoted me and wondered how I knew the shoulder was ok. I absolutely do not. Please read my earlier post again, it simply doesn't say that, at all. Based on the way it’s playing out, I wouldn’t be surprised if he signs somewhere for a little over $5 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I see a bunch of raiders fans on Twitter talking about Ansah possibly signing there, but can’t find a report of him visiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Based on the way it’s playing out, I wouldn’t be surprised if he signs somewhere for a little over $5 mil I would be shocked if it came under $10m a year. His production and athleticism warrants around $12-14m a year. If it weren't for his shoulder he would easily get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Magox said: I would be shocked if it came under $10m a year. His production and athleticism warrants around $12-14m a year. If it weren't for his shoulder he would easily get that. Jets will hand him 20 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I see a bunch of raiders fans on Twitter talking about Ansah possibly signing there, but can’t find a report of him visiting The Raiders might be handing Ansah an IOU or Promissory Note as we speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 People are predicting his worth with AAV which is likely insignificant in this situation. Ansah wants what every 30yr old FA with an injury wants -- term. He wants a contract that will keep him in one place for 5+ years with GTD money. The Bills (and every other team) want to give him a front-loaded contract that they can walk away from after 2 years if things go south (i.e. the type of contract where AAV truly means nothing). Signing him to a contract that says he makes $50M over 5 yrs doesn't mean squat if a team can cut bait on him after 1 yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I see a bunch of raiders fans on Twitter talking about Ansah possibly signing there, but can’t find a report of him visiting Raiders trying to buy a championship, which never works out. Wish we had something to trade to 3 first round picks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Ziggy is a funny name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 ...who cares if Zig zagged?...we're certainly not in cap strapped desperation to sign wounded ducks like Murphy or "Halftime" Davis nor to be fleeced by the likes of "Pitstop" Coleman......we'll be just fine... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Shaw66 said: In his interview with John Murphy, Beane sounded to me like he is done with Ziggy. Didn't say It exactly, but his tone and how he said things sounded like the Bills have decided they aren't interested. Ziggy's price will have to come down. Yeah he said something like "He was a good young man and I enjoyed meeting with him. He will continue to have visits with other teams and thats really the end of it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...who cares if Zig zagged?...we're certainly not in cap strapped desperation to sign wounded ducks like Murphy or "Halftime" Davis nor to be fleeced by the likes of "Pitstop" Coleman......we'll be just fine... I don’t think Ziggy is a big get anyways, the Bills needs sacks. Looking at his recent totals he doesn’t bring that as he once did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I don’t think Ziggy is a big get anyways, the Bills needs sacks. Looking at his recent totals he doesn’t bring that as he once did. I mean he have 12 sacks two years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I mean he have 12 sacks two years ago And two the year before in 13 games. His actual age is an unknown and at this stage in his career he seems to be a guy who only gets numbers when he is 100 percent healthy. How often are players that lucky? This guy’s arrow is pointed down. Edited March 16, 2019 by CommonCents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, CommonCents said: And two the year before in 13 games. His actual age is an unknown and at this stage in his career he seems to be a guy who only gets numbers when he is 100 percent healthy. How often are players that lucky? This guy’s arrow is pointed down. He has a lot left in his tank for a 52 year old 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Listen to the podcast he did with Fairburn and Buscaglia, Beane says that Ziggy's not healthy yet. Hard to sign a guy if you can't sign off on his medicals. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 16 hours ago, CommonCents said: And two the year before in 13 games. His actual age is an unknown and at this stage in his career he seems to be a guy who only gets numbers when he is 100 percent healthy. How often are players that lucky? This guy’s arrow is pointed down. And had 14.5 sacks the year before that, inconsistent sure but one a cheap deal worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 17 hours ago, matter2003 said: Yeah he said something like "He was a good young man and I enjoyed meeting with him. He will continue to have visits with other teams and thats really the end of it" That's the way I heard it. He didn't say anything like "we will continue to be in touch with his agent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 ...thought I read "Dr Ruth's second medical opinion" is due on McBeane's desk Monday morning...stay tuned...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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