N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Rufridr101 said: I'm hearing the jets are interested but don't have enough picks. That's why they are determined to trade back from 3 and gain enough fire power to trade with Seattle Who did you hear it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, DJB said: He has off field issies and wants 20+ on a new contract. Nobody is giving more than a late first. Bills give 2nd and Shaq for F Clark. Bills give a 5th and 7th for G McCoy. Draft Hockenson at 9. Myles Boykin ND WR and Kaleb Mcgary Wsh OT 1.) Why in God's name would Seattle, or ANY team for that matter, want Shaq Lawson? 2.) Why would Tampa be stupid enough to let McCoy go for such pathetic compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I don't think shaq is going to be traded and they won't pick up the option. Beano will use that to motivate him. Jerry Hughes is the guy that's gonna be traded not to Seattle though because he doesn't fit the style defense they run either. Jerry Hughes is a speed rusher for a 34 defense or a wide 9. McDermotts defense is a squeeze the pocket defense with tall ends to make it harder for screens. Two teams come to mind for Jerry both previously coached him. Philadelphia eagles with jim Schwartz and the green bay packers mike pettine. That clears cap space and recouping picks. Then they still sign ziggy anash when he clears medical. Here's a crazy thought I think vladdy ducasse hasn't been cut because he has trade value to the right scheme maybe a fifth rounder. I'm thinking Tampa bay buccaneers bruce Arians runs a scheme he fits. Tampa needs lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Interesting choice of words, if he were to be traded "before Thursday's draft." Perhaps meaning that if there's no takers by then, they'll accept a 2nd. I still think the most sensible trade would be switching 1sts with them. Id rather keep 9 and give up the 2nd.. Still have the option of an elite prospect falling to 9, or trading down and getting the 2nd back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Absolutely not giving up 9 but 40 damn close to the first round then then sweeten it up with a fourth and maybe even a fifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: 2.) Why would Tampa be stupid enough to let McCoy go for such pathetic compensation? He is not an easy trade as he is due to be paid $13 Mil in 2019 which a lot of teams can’t afford at this stage of the season or don’t think he is worth that.. Supposedly Arians has told him not too show up to OTA’s so it looks like they are moving on.. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a 5th gets it done if Beane doesn’t mind ponying up the cash.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Adam Schaefer wouldn't be advertising if the Seahawks weren't desperate. Kansas city and Indianapolis are involved they are offering picks in the 60's ish range. The jets want him but would need to trade back now. That weekends the jets strength in return. If the bills are involved they will get him for 40. I'm surprised gruden not all over this must be drafting a rusher at 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, Rufridr101 said: Adam Schaefer wouldn't be advertising if the Seahawks weren't desperate. Kansas city and Indianapolis are involved they are offering picks in the 60's ish range. The jets want him but would need to trade back now. That weekends the jets strength in return. If the bills are involved they will get him for 40. I'm surprised gruden not all over this must be drafting a rusher at 4 Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: Adam Schaefer wouldn't be advertising if the Seahawks weren't desperate. Kansas city and Indianapolis are involved they are offering picks in the 60's ish range. The jets want him but would need to trade back now. That weekends the jets strength in return. If the bills are involved they will get him for 40. I'm surprised gruden not all over this must be drafting a rusher at 4 Gruden did not want to give a crapload of money to Khalil Mack. He isn't going to turn around and give draft picks and a crapload of money to Clark. Gruden is crazy, but not that crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Gruden did not want to give a crapload of money to Khalil Mack. He isn't going to turn around and give draft picks and a crapload of money to Clark. Gruden is crazy, but not that crazy. But look who he works for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, CNY315 said: Pretty sure Steelers put out this same message right before trading AB for a case of Schlitz Edited April 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: 1.) Why in God's name would Seattle, or ANY team for that matter, want Shaq Lawson? 2.) Why would Tampa be stupid enough to let McCoy go for such pathetic compensation? Shaq gives them a cheap albeit a worse DE to replace Clark. They have cap issues. Not sure if you've been paying attention but many insiders are suggesting a late pick is going to be the cost to acquire McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Pretty sure Steelers put out this same message right before trading AB for a case of Schlitz I'd swap picks with Seattle for Clark, but I'm not sure that'll get it done. As others have mentioned, Shaq is not desirable trade bait considering his impending salary and very limited production. It'd be a big time score to land either Clark for a swap(or 2nd) or McCoy for a 4th, etc. The draft capital would be worth it in both cases. We're not gonna find a better pass rusher than Clark at 9, let alone 40. But you never capitulate in this type of deal. Swap or 2nd! Edited April 21, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astb41 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Trade 40 for Clark and draft hock or Oliver at 9? I’m down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, astb41 said: Trade 40 for Clark and draft hock or Oliver at 9? I’m down. Has anyone seen this being mentioned? everything I see says first only. If we can get him for 40 definitely do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Has anyone seen this being mentioned? everything I see says first only. If we can get him for 40 definitely do it. Seattle want a first but of course they would.. As others have said, he seems to have been on the trading block a while yet there he still is waiting in the wings.. Maybe 40 gets it done .. Maybe offer Hughes and a 2020 third.. They won’t be paying both Clark and Hughes in 2020.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffAlone said: He hasn't stayed out of trouble since. And his price is too high. I'm not projecting any process because, well...I'm not exactly sure what it is yet, but I'll trust it. That said, regardless of MY opinion of him, which I'm not trying to convey at all, I strongly believe that our team pres, owner, coach, GM would not pay for his services at such a high price, and baggage included. A 1st rd pick, and 17 mil a year is a high price for anything other than a squeaky clean, highly productive( not that he's not), face of the franchise type player. That's just my opinion as to how I think this F.O. operates Could you cite any other trouble he’s gotten in since his dismissal from school? I can’t find any. So far you’ve said he threatened a reporter, which he didn’t, and have said he hadn’t stayed out of trouble since his college issues. And again, I’m not 100%, but after some mild digging I think that’s fairly false as well. Again, if the price is right, this dude has done nothing in the last 4 years for us to think he couldn’t work in buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 hours ago, DJB said: Shaq gives them a cheap albeit a worse DE to replace Clark. They have cap issues. Not sure if you've been paying attention but many insiders are suggesting a late pick is going to be the cost to acquire McCoy. Disagree with you on Seattle. They want draft picks not players. The Bills can afford to give up 2 picks for Clark. Agree with you on Tampa Bay. If they aren't going to pay him and get any decent draft picks for him, they might do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Could you cite any other trouble he’s gotten in since his dismissal from school? I can’t find any. So far you’ve said he threatened a reporter, which he didn’t, and have said he hadn’t stayed out of trouble since his college issues. And again, I’m not 100%, but after some mild digging I think that’s fairly false as well. Again, if the price is right, this dude has done nothing in the last 4 years for us to think he couldn’t work in buffalo He didn't threaten her, he insulted her for doing her job.And yes he has been clean since his 2014 conviction ( I had read an erroneous 2016 article, my bad) but nonetheless his record is a bad look for someone due to make 17 mil. Not so sure the Pegulas would even try to explain that move to the fan base. Again, great player but at a 1st rd pick plus his contract, I don't see how Buffalo sees that as a worthy contract. But what do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Seattle want a first but of course they would.. As others have said, he seems to have been on the trading block a while yet there he still is waiting in the wings.. Maybe 40 gets it done .. Maybe offer Hughes and a 2020 third.. They won’t be paying both Clark and Hughes in 2020.. If we're not willing to pay Hughes and Clark don't do the trade. Doesn't make sense. Unless we can trade Hughes for a late 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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