ExWNYer Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, Boca BIlls said: I actually just been having fun watching you get angry over nothing... but he doesnt care about Boca either. I'm not angry but, if that makes you feel better, carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Counterpoint would be that cost of living is astronomically higher in Cali than Buffalo. Just as is the average pay for the majority of jobs/careers. A RN can easily make over $100,000 year in parts of Cali. I know this first hand and no I don't live in any of the three major Californian cities. My wife makes $100 an hour at one hospital and about $55 at another. According to glassdoor.com an RN at ECMC makes an average of $30/hr. Roswell (my wife's first place working as an RN) gets an average of $63,131 annually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Just as is the average pay for the majority of jobs/careers. A RN can easily make over $100,000 year in parts of Cali. I know this first hand and no I don't live in any of the three major Californian cities. My wife makes $100 an hour at one hospital and about $55 at another. According to glassdoor.com an RN at ECMC makes an average of $30/hr. Roswell (my wife's first place working as an RN) gets an average of $63,131 annually. Had an Aunt who was an RN at Roswell. On topic, I tend to think we overstate the tax issue to cover up the fact that some players don't want to come here. I mean, screw em, but it is what it is. NYC doesn't seem to have the kind of trouble we do landing FA's. That's why it's so important to draft well. Early returns with Beane are promising. Edited March 9, 2019 by BillsSB2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: That happens a lot in Chicago, always watch your drink. We were in a bar in the city and some chick got caught putting viagra into people's beer. We didn't believe him at first but my friend said he tried to go to the bath but could piss because he had a hard on. Yeah I have some buddies who have had it happened to them. I think it may have happened to me or it might have been too many Jameson shots on an empty stomach! Just curious which bar was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Had an Aunt who was an RN at Roswell. On topic, I tend to think we overstate the tax issue to cover up the fact that some players don't want to come here. I mean, screw em, but it is what it is. NYC doesn't seem to have the kind of trouble we do landing FA's. That's why it's so important to draft well. Early returns with Beane are promising. My wife loved working there. We only moved because I was Active Duty AF and got orders. We actually contemplated going back to Buffalo when I retired, but those property taxes were a major issue for me. It's a shame cause we loved it there. I don't think property taxes are the issue to the players... However state taxes are a HUGE issue. They are already taxed at 37% federally. You can go to PA and only add 3.07% onto that or you can go to Cali and add 13.3% on top (NY is 8.82%). Teams in those states have to pay the player significantly more to compensate for losses to taxes to equal teams from lower taxed states (or none, like FL and TX). Check this article out. https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/bryce-harpers-mega-millions-baseball-contract-how-it-compares-to-other-offers-after-taxes 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Herc11 said: My wife loved working there. We only moved because I was Active Duty AF and got orders. We actually contemplated going back to Buffalo when I retired, but those property taxes were a major issue for me. It's a shame cause we loved it there. I don't think property taxes are the issue to the players... However state taxes are a HUGE issue. They are already taxed at 37% federally. You can go to PA and only add 3.07% onto that or you can go to Cali and add 13.3% on top (NY is 8.82%). Teams in those states have to pay the player significantly more to compensate for losses to taxes to equal teams from lower taxed states (or none, like FL and TX). Check this article out. https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/bryce-harpers-mega-millions-baseball-contract-how-it-compares-to-other-offers-after-taxes Very good point. I bet alot of these dummy athletes don’t take this into consideration unless their agent tells them. And in alot of cases it would probably be in the agents best interest not to tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: I love Buffalo. But..... guys like Shawn Merriman and Kyle Williams and LorAx are not gonna change this perception by tweeting. Guys who are young, like Landon Collins, are laughing at memes about AB getting traded there. 35 year old dudes saying its not so bad ARE NOT reaching younger dudes. They just aren't. Shady is younger than them both, and closer in maturity to the young guys, was traded here in his prime and ACTIVELY RECRUITED GUYS, and we got...... no one. It's time to face facts, like we do every time we have tremendous cap space every 4-5 years. NFL. Players. Don't. Want. To. Come. Here. The only way to seriously compete with the Rams or any other team in FA is to have a great QB and a great team. Period. No amount of "Buffalo is so awesome!!!!" from JimKelly#1Fan is going to replace that. Wait you mean that having a winning team will make getting free agents easier? I had no idea that would matter. But how did my stating buffalo is not exciting turn into this rant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: Yeah I have some buddies who have had it happened to them. I think it may have happened to me or it might have been too many Jameson shots on an empty stomach! Just curious which bar was it? Crow bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I just saw an interview on NFL.com with adidi khibwala, she stated that the talks never even got to money with Antonio Brown, the Bills were clearly interested but the compensation was too high, so I'm assuming they wanted Buffalo's 1st round pick outright for Brown (just a guess). She stated that talks never got to Antonio brown or his agent on whether or not he'd want to come to Buffalo so this was nixed by Beane thinking the price was too high. She also said Brown doesn't have that much leverage and that the Steelers aren't asking brown who he wants to be traded too in case people are still thinking Antonio brown said screw Buffalo that appears not to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I just saw an interview on NFL.com with adidi khibwala, she stated that the talks never even got to money with Antonio Brown, the Bills were clearly interested but the compensation was too high, so I'm assuming they wanted Buffalo's 1st round pick outright for Brown (just a guess). She stated that talks never got to Antonio brown or his agent on whether or not he'd want to come to Buffalo so this was nixed by Beane thinking the price was too high. She also said Brown doesn't have that much leverage and that the Steelers aren't asking brown who he wants to be traded too in case people are still thinking Antonio brown said screw Buffalo that appears not to be the case. It actually is the case, he did say in more words or less, screw Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I just saw an interview on NFL.com with adidi khibwala, she stated that the talks never even got to money with Antonio Brown, the Bills were clearly interested but the compensation was too high, so I'm assuming they wanted Buffalo's 1st round pick outright for Brown (just a guess). She stated that talks never got to Antonio brown or his agent on whether or not he'd want to come to Buffalo so this was nixed by Beane thinking the price was too high. She also said Brown doesn't have that much leverage and that the Steelers aren't asking brown who he wants to be traded too in case people are still thinking Antonio brown said screw Buffalo that appears not to be the case. Isn't that the reporter who primarily covers the Steelers? Sounds like Pittsburgh is doing major damage control because AB drove his value down with how he acted with the Buffalo possibility. They would want other teams to believe it never got that far so it looks like the Bills just didnt want to give up 9. I would think most teams would not be willing to give up 9, so that would be a reasonable thing for Buffalo to do in their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: It actually is the case, he did say in more words or less, screw Buffalo Per sources, I call BS on that unless brown himself comes out and says that. Watch the interview on NFL.com, Brown doesn't get to pick and choose where he wants to go, sure he could say screw Buffalo but it never got that far at least that's what she said (ha that's what she said). 7 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Isn't that the reporter who primarily covers the Steelers? Sounds like Pittsburgh is doing major damage control because AB drove his value down with how he acted with the Buffalo possibility. They would want other teams to believe it never got that far so it looks like the Bills just didnt want to give up 9. I would think most teams would not be willing to give up 9, so that would be a reasonable thing for Buffalo to do in their eyes. I'm not sure but Brown himself said it doesn't matter who you are, if you have the cash, remember that gem on his twitter feed? Who the hell knows at this point what is real and what isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Per sources, I call BS on that unless brown himself comes out and says that. Watch the interview on NFL.com, Brown doesn't get to pick and choose where he wants to go, sure he could say screw Buffalo but it never got that far at least that's what she said (ha that's what she said). If the Bills were willing to make the deal, which they were by all accounts, there is no reason to believe they wouldn't give him a slight bump in salary considering they have all the cap space in the world. AB didn't want to come to Buffalo. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Per sources, I call BS on that unless brown himself comes out and says that. Watch the interview on NFL.com, Brown doesn't get to pick and choose where he wants to go, sure he could say screw Buffalo but it never got that far at least that's what she said (ha that's what she said). I'm not sure but Brown himself said it doesn't matter who you are, if you have the cash, remember that gem on his twitter feed? Who the hell knows at this point what is real and what isn't. Ya, but he also said he doesn't need the money and could just retire in that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Herc11 said: Uhh... should probably do some research first. I've lived in Buffalo and almost bought a house there. Property taxes were insane for what you were getting. Here's some actual data for you to digest: "California’s overall property taxes are below the national average. The average effective property tax rate in California is 0.79%, compared with a national average of 1.19%." Buffalo 1.88% = $18.80 per thousand $100,000 house = $1880 per year, $156.67 per month on top of your mortgage! https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-property-tax-calculator#b5Sc1pJdjw Are there any $100,000 houses in California? Last time I visited my friends in EssEff and Hermosa Beach, what goes for about $100K here costs about $400K or more out there. So basically 4x the mortgage payment, and a sh*tload of taxes on top, for an equivalent home, minus the palm trees. And you better like your car, because you’re going to be in it about 4 hours a day just to get to and from work, and pay 4 bucks a gallon for gas. . Edited March 9, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Per sources, I call BS on that unless brown himself comes out and says that. Watch the interview on NFL.com, Brown doesn't get to pick and choose where he wants to go, sure he could say screw Buffalo but it never got that far at least that's what she said (ha that's what she said). He did say on this IG account "Fake News." Not far fetched that AB said screw Buffalo. He doesn't have to sign anywhere else since he has an existing contract with the Steelers this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: If the Bills were willing to make the deal, which they were by all accounts, there is no reason to believe they wouldn't give him a slight bump in salary considering they have all the cap space in the world. AB didn't want to come to Buffalo. It is what it is. AB has not come out and said this nor is it confirmed, you are just spewing out non facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel said: AB has not come out and said this nor is it confirmed, you are just spewing out non facts. It seems pretty clear. But you are correct; I did not personally hear AB say screw Buffalo. He did say "fake news" regarding the rumors. I glean that he's indicating he isn't going to play for Buffalo. I don't know why he'd go out of his way to say that the deal wasn't technically done. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, The Senator said: Are there any $100,000 houses in California? Last time I visited my friends in EssEff and Hermosa Beach, what goes for about $100K here costs about $400K or more out there. So basically 4x the mortgage payment, and a sh*tload of taxes on top, for an equivalent home. And you better like your car, because you’re going to be in about 4 hours a day just to get to and from work, and pay 4 bucks a gallon for gas. . I could say the same for NYC. The fact is LA, SD, and SF represent a minuscule part of California. I used $100,000 because that was an easy number. I'll show you a $500,000 house where I live and a $500,000 house in Buffalo will pail in comparison and will run significantly more in taxes. When your money is going to materials, construction, and land you get much more bang for your buck than when its going to the government. Plus there is that little part where the house and land can increase in value and you can make more. When that value goes up in Buffalo you just pay more and more in taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Crow bar. Yoh man I have never been there but my friends have I definitely believe that story from what I have heard about that place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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