Impeachment Hearings Open In House Of Representatives

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

You guys lost the House, so you can't do that. You guys wasted all your political capital on the nothingburger of a Benghazi investigation. 

So you admit this is strictly political and not in any way relating to wrong doing or running the country. Glad you’ve finally come around.

[plenzmd1]

46 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

M'kay... so I've written here before how complicated our little holdings make our real estate returns. There is a reason there are permanent hires (CPAs and tax attorneys) constantly working on Trump's taxes, and it ain't something you, me, or the MSM can understand without the underlying documents and in a "release".

 

As far as "off shore companies" and "interest at foreign banks" ... holy *****, go read the damn tax laws. We have a gold holding in Switzerland- that we have to report every stinking year whether or not it has changed. Forms and more forms. We have a foreign bank account - which are almost impossible for Americans to get anymore due to IRS hassling, and if you said due to more reporting and forms, you would be correct.

 

Anyone who has any asssets of any worth is now tracked constantly.  Trusts can't avoid some things (we have trusts, again, paperwork). 

 

His taxes are NONE of our business. The super friendly IRS /snark has made very certain President Trump and his companies are paying every single nickel the IRS thinks he should pay.

 

If this succeeds, I wonder if a hard look at some Democratic leaders taxes should happen- with a public release, of course!

You make my point. Dems will want to say look at all this foreign stuff from the guy who says OTHER companies need to do just the opposite and invest back in America! 

 

And don’t forget, the little piece about asking for all administrative actions as well. 

 

What will then be the excuse if no audits no audits have been requested for any years going back the six years... will Trump folks just excuse that as “ Trump being Trump”

 

if I am the Dems, and this gets tied up in court as I suspect it will, I take it a step farther and just say “

okay Trump, just show us the notice of audit”  and for what years as that is why you claim you will not release the forms. Then don’t show us those years. 

[Gary M]

16 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Again, they want his returns to simply say “ Trump paid x % in 16, and paid y ( y being much smaller) after HIS tax law. Perception is what counts. 

 

All of them are 1 percenters, so that would be true across the board.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

You make my point. Dems will want to say look at all this foreign stuff from the guy who says OTHER companies need to do just the opposite and invest back in America! 

 

And don’t forget, the little piece about asking for all administrative actions as well. 

 

What will then be the excuse if no audits no audits have been requested for any years going back the six years... will Trump folks just excuse that as “ Trump being Trump”

 

if I am the Dems, and this gets tied up in court as I suspect it will, I take it a step farther and just say “

okay Trump, just show us the notice of audit”  and for what years as that is why you claim you will not release the forms. Then don’t show us those years. 

First, why did my misspelling make your quote when I had fixed them almost 10 minutes ago?

Second,  he's audited. You don't make that kind of dinero (and deductions) without the IRS combing your returns. 

Third, none of this... absolutely none of it, is anyone's damn business. They asked for returns from a  private citizen (prior to the years he was elected President). How about you give all your earning information to be plastered all over the world so people can pick through it and decided (without knowing *****) that you did something wrong?

Fourth, you had mentioned above his 2016, 2017, 2018 returns. His 2018 returns are unlikely to be completed yet.  Ours are not. He has until October. 

Fifth, the Democrats will rue this one. It will get ugly if "pawing through tax returns for possible political gain" is now going to be a standard. Ever notice how many people arrive in Congress with $12.57 to their name, and leave multi-millionaires on (what is now) $174K a year?  How about we pick through those returns instead!? 

[Tiberius]

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Whether Pelosi intended this result or not, her ability to treat Trump as a spoiled child and provoke even more self-destructive behavior has several positive benefits for Democrats in this context. First, it puts the blame for not accomplishing anything on infrastructure — or anything else — squarely on Trump’s shoulders. Second, he makes it nearly impossible for incumbent Republicans to run in 2020 on any record of accomplishment. The GOP will rightfully be called the do-nothing party. (Well, in fairness they do plenty — excusing Trump, enabling Trump, ignoring Trump’s wrongdoing, etc.) Third, it’s a preposterous position — what else will he refuse to do? — for someone who will be running for reelection in 2020. Fourth, more than anything, he has shown how panicked he is about investigations, thereby giving Pelosi the ability to talk to frustrated members of her caucus who want to start on impeachment the perfect comeback: We’ve got him on the run. Fifth, if they ever do get around to impeachment, Democrats can add another count against him: Refuses to do his job while lawful investigations are going on.

Jennifer Rubin nails it, of course

[Chef Jim]

17 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! 

 

Wow! Just wow! 

 

 

He filed his return right?  With the government right?  

[Tiberius]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/22/pelosi-goads-trump-into-another-temper-tantrum/?utm_term=.61a4a57038aa

Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

He filed his return right?  With the government right?  

So? 

[Chef Jim]

20 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Again, they want his returns to simply say “ Trump paid x % in 16, and paid y ( y being much smaller) after HIS tax law. Perception is what counts. 

 

And if that's the case?  Then what?

Just now, Tiberius said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/22/pelosi-goads-trump-into-another-temper-tantrum/?utm_term=.61a4a57038aa

So? 

 

That's as transparent as he is required to be right? 

[Koko78]

4 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And what part of his tax return would you look at to see if there was any nefarious dealings with the Russians going on? 

 

Clearly the income line item labeled "Russian Bribes".

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So you admit this is strictly political and not in any way relating to wrong doing or running the country. Glad you’ve finally come around.

Politics is very important. It's what keeps us from being like Putin's Russia. 

Just now, Koko78 said:

 

Clearly the income line item labeled "Russian Bribes".

I'd love to see his income from Trump University. He scammed all those people, I get you guys could care less whatever he did, but his criminal background is at the very least, interesting 

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And if that's the case?  Then what?

 

That's as transparent as he is required to be right? 

No. Actually not. Transparent means the people get to see it, you know, the American people. And you know that. You are just playing games here. 

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Politics is very important. It's what keeps us from being like Putin's Russia. 

I'd love to see his income from Trump University. He scammed all those people, I get you guys could care less whatever he did, but his criminal background is at the very least, interesting 

 

Is there a reason you didn't beat the tax return drum in 2016 for Hillary?  

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

No. Actually not. Transparent means the people get to see it, you know, the American people. And you know that. You are just playing games here. 

 

Games?? Me???  No.  That would be you childish people yelling for someone to do something there is currently zero requirement for them to do. That my friend is the absolute definition of a game.  I childish game.  

 

You say that's not as transparent as he is required to be.  What are you basing that statement on?   

Edited May 22, 2019 by Chef Jim

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Clearly the income line item labeled "Russian Bribes".

I think a line item labeled "Amount paid to you by over litigious porn stars" might be more interesting.

[Koko78]

4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I think a line item labeled "Amount paid to you by over litigious porn stars" might be more interesting.

 

Off topic, but Avenatti just got indicted for stealing from the porn star. That's hilarious.

Edited May 22, 2019 by Koko78

[Albwan]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Fine, then they should just release it. Don't you agree? 

 

You saying it's just stupid is only a political argument, too. 

Oh the little people have to take their shots when they can! 

You remind me of the attention starved morons who drive by my house in crap

cars that are tuned to sound like bowel movements.

Edited May 22, 2019 by Albwan

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Koko78 said:

 

Off topic, but Avenatti just got indicted for stealing from the porn star.

 

Reminds me of the scene in "Catch Me If You Can" when Decrapio gives the pro a fake check, gets laid and gets cash back.

[plenzmd1]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

First, why did my misspelling make your quote when I had fixed them almost 10 minutes ago?

Second,  he's audited. You don't make that kind of dinero (and deductions) without the IRS combing your returns. 

Third, none of this... absolutely none of it, is anyone's damn business. They asked for returns from a  private citizen (prior to the years he was elected President). How about you give all your earning information to be plastered all over the world so people can pick through it and decided (without knowing *****) that you did something wrong?

Fourth, you had mentioned above his 2016, 2017, 2018 returns. His 2018 returns are unlikely to be completed yet.  Ours are not. He has until October. 

Fifth, the Democrats will rue this one. It will get ugly if "pawing through tax returns for possible political gain" is now going to be a standard. Ever notice how many people arrive in Congress with $12.57 to their name, and leave multi-millionaires on (what is now) $174K a year?  How about we pick through those returns instead!? 

First    Not sure what misspelling ! ( on an unrelated note, the glitch seems not to happen when I lost from phone)

 

2) all for everyone releasing their tax return. I have no problem showing mine to anyone. I have never boasted nor deny any income I do or do not make , taxes I paid, deductions etc. I am all for someone running for Federal elective office needs to release 3 years of returns. 

 

3) I don’t know that he is audited, you don’t know he is audited. I would be fine him showing the notice of audit, which I suspect he would have done had he in fact been audited all 5 years. 

 

4) you say it’s no one s damn business what he makes etc. I think it is 100 % my business to know if the POTUS  might have issues that could compromise his decision making ability. Don’t want to release them, don’t run for President. 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

First    Not sure what misspelling ! ( on an unrelated note, the glitch seems not to happen when I lost from phone)

 

2) all for everyone releasing their tax return. I have no problem showing mine to anyone. I have never boasted nor deny any income I do or do not make , taxes I paid, deductions etc. I am all for someone running for Federal elective office needs to release 3 years of returns. 

 

3) I don’t know that he is audited, you don’t know he is audited. I would be fine him showing the notice of audit, which I suspect he would have done had he in fact been audited all 5 years. 

 

4) you say it’s no one s damn business what he makes etc. I think it is 100 % my business to know if the POTUS  might have issues that could compromise his decision making ability. Don’t want to release them, don’t run for President. 

 

One question.  Why do you feel it is necessary to see someone running for POTUS's tax return?  

[Foxx]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Jennifer Rubin nails it, of course

well what do you know... i don't know that i would say Rubin nails it but this is not a good look for Trump. letting the Donners get the better of him here. he is obligated to do the work of the people regardless.

 

the onus is squarely upon him now to get infrastructure done (without the House, he can't).

[plenzmd1]

9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Is there a reason you didn't beat the tax return drum in 2016 for Hillary?  

 

Games?? Me???  No.  That would be you childish people yelling for someone to do something there is currently zero requirement for them to do. That my friend is the absolute definition of a game.  I childish game.  

 

You say that's not as transparent as he is required to be.  What are you basing that statement on?   

  Chef, Trump as stated as fact he would release the returns as soon as audits are completed. So while you are right no requirement, he has stated he would release. 

 

If there ate no audits

 

# 1) any issue with his untruths?

 

# 2, and he refuses to release, any issue on your end? 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

First    Not sure what misspelling ! ( on an unrelated note, the glitch seems not to happen when I lost from phone)

 

2) all for everyone releasing their tax return. I have no problem showing mine to anyone. I have never boasted nor deny any income I do or do not make , taxes I paid, deductions etc. I am all for someone running for Federal elective office needs to release 3 years of returns. 

 

3) I don’t know that he is audited, you don’t know he is audited. I would be fine him showing the notice of audit, which I suspect he would have done had he in fact been audited all 5 years. 

 

4) you say it’s no one s damn business what he makes etc. I think it is 100 % my business to know if the POTUS  might have issues that could compromise his decision making ability. Don’t want to release them, don’t run for President. 

2) You must not be on social media. 

3)  Is he audited yearly? That I cannot know. Is he audited? You betchya. The IRS LOVES to audit high net-worth people. 

4)  Nope. Not in the Constitution as a requirement, so it is not a requirement to run for President.