Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring bust ( Update: Kraft legal team accused of lying in court)

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

It will never happen; nor should it.

 

Yea the new owner might move them to Hartford.

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

In most cases you don’t have clear-cut evidence like this.  So in those cases you don’t admit guilt to the worst charge right off the bat and/or help law-enforcement make their case against you.  

 

And I’ve never once said that if you commit a crime, you shouldn’t be punished at all.   We both admit that Bobby committed a crime. But if they throw out the video, there’s a good chance he’ll escape charges. And you’re OK with that? 

 

Clear cut evidence like a video of a guy stomping another guy who is in the fetal position on the ground (sorry....couldn't resist!)?

 

Yes he committed a crime.  If he gets off because the cops and the DA screwed up the case, so be it.  That's on them.  They made a mess of this whole operation from the beginning.  If he walks, meh...it's a handjob.  It's not like he nearly decapitated his ex wife and another guy.

 

If the video is suppressed there is no case.  And if the video is suppressed because it was improperly warranted and executed, the Sunshine Laws won't apply, so it can't be legally released.  So in that circumstance, yeah, he likely will have it "both ways"----although I'm betting that, given what we now know about his preferred massage predilections,  I'm sure that's what he asked for each time he visited that place:  "i'll have it both ways please".

 

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

 

How long have you two been married, anyway?

 

More like common law...

 

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I meant he can’t expect to have it both ways. As for the video being released, why not?  It’s entertainment (for some). 

 

You can't wait to see that tape doc.  You can't stop talking about its "release".

[Rocky Landing]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

Other than Kraft's embarrassment, what would be gained by releasing the video?

 

And if Kraft's embarrassment is the only goal, that's shameful and borderline pathetic, IMO.

Kraft should just own it, and distribute it a la Pamela Anderson/Tommy Lee.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26694657/prosecutors-say-kraft-attorneys-lied-court

 

lied in court?

 

 

 

Two of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's high-profile defense attorneys lied during his misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution case and falsely alleged a police officer admitted to fabricating a traffic violation to stop another massage parlor customer, prosecutors asserted Tuesday.

[JohnC]

40 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26694657/prosecutors-say-kraft-attorneys-lied-court

 

lied in court?

 

 

 

Two of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's high-profile defense attorneys lied during his misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution case and falsely alleged a police officer admitted to fabricating a traffic violation to stop another massage parlor customer, prosecutors asserted Tuesday.

Highly paid prominent attorneys playing hardball. What's the surprise? The prosecuting side is just as capable of fighting back against the men who wear more expensive suits. There is going to come a point where the judge is going to get exasperated with these guerrilla war legal wrangling over a low caliber violation that is taking up a lot of his court's time and resources. It is going to be interesting to see which side his ire is going to be directed towards. 

[Keukasmallies]

Seems to always come down to how much justice one can afford.

[aristocrat]

Someone associated with Kraft lying to the courts? get outta town this man is a saint!

[row_33]

12 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26694657/prosecutors-say-kraft-attorneys-lied-court

 

lied in court?

 

 

 

Two of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's high-profile defense attorneys lied during his misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution case and falsely alleged a police officer admitted to fabricating a traffic violation to stop another massage parlor customer, prosecutors asserted Tuesday.

 

lawyers lied?

 

geez, next we'll hear people going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE when they find out politicians lie

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

11 hours ago, JohnC said:

Highly paid prominent attorneys playing hardball. What's the surprise? The prosecuting side is just as capable of fighting back against the men who wear more expensive suits. There is going to come a point where the judge is going to get exasperated with these guerrilla war legal wrangling over a low caliber violation that is taking up a lot of his court's time and resources. It is going to be interesting to see which side his ire is going to be directed towards. 

 

the judge can just toss it out or he can get pissed they are wasting his time and throw the book at him.   

 

Someone should sell the video to the highlight bidder and give the money to charity 

2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

lawyers lied?

 

geez, next we'll hear people going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE when they find out politicians lie

 

 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE     

[row_33]

11 hours ago, Keukasmallies said:

Seems to always come down to how much justice one can afford.

 

well.....

 

but a rich man is going to be prosecuted for things a poor man cannot, and the reverse

 

 

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

the judge can just toss it out or he can get pissed they are wasting his time and throw the book at him.   

 

It's a misdemeanor.  Not sure how big the book will be.

[JohnC]

14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

the judge can just toss it out or he can get pissed they are wasting his time and throw the book at him.   

 

Someone should sell the video to the highlight bidder and give the money to charity 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE     

The video is in the custody of the authorities. Anyone involved with the selling of evidence is committing a crime and will be held accountable. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

It's a misdemeanor.  Not sure how big the book will be.

 

LOL  OK  throw the notepad at him. 

4 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The video is in the custody of the authorities. Anyone involved with the selling of evidence is committing a crime and will be held accountable. 

 

while true .....   someone will manage to "hack" in and get the video footage and sell it to the highest bidder 

 

 

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL  OK  throw the notepad at him. 

 

while true .....   someone will manage to "hack" in and get the video footage and sell it to the highest bidder 

 

 

Are you expecting the Putin hack? 

 

I wonder if there is a big market for a video of a 77 yr old sausage being gently massaged? 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Just now, JohnC said:

Are you expecting the Putin hack? 

 

I wonder if there is a big market for a video of a 77 yr old sausage being gently massaged? 

 

TMZ will buy just about anything      Just look at the Kardashians 

the Jersey Shore buffoons 

[Toesy]

This whole thing is interesting because I can remember when someone that was into watching other guys have sex was considered a pervert. Now with internet porn it is promoted to the masses as healthy entertainment-so much so that people are bragging/excited that they are going to be the first to watch Kraft get jerked. Pretty wild. 

[Mr. WEO]

13 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26694657/prosecutors-say-kraft-attorneys-lied-court

 

lied in court?

 

 

 

Two of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's high-profile defense attorneys lied during his misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution case and falsely alleged a police officer admitted to fabricating a traffic violation to stop another massage parlor customer, prosecutors asserted Tuesday.

 

 

Actually, if you read the article, Krafts lawyers, while questioning the cop on the stand in front of the judge and the prosecutor, accused him of fabricating a reason for the traffic stop.

 

And actually:   "Prosecutors said to avoid telling the man that his traffic violation had occurred in the spa's parking lot, Kimbark was recorded telling another officer that if the man asked about its location he would "come up with something."

 

So it's hardly a difficult line of questioning for the cop. 

 

Also: "Burck in his phone interview laughed at the accusation, saying prosecutors were present during Spiro's conversation with Kimbark."If they thought it was such a terrible thing, it is interesting that they decided to raise it a week later and not right after it happened in front of the judge,"

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

TMZ will buy just about anything      Just look at the Kardashians 

the Jersey Shore buffoons 

There is a big difference in this case with the Kardashian and Jersey Shore naughty guys and girls. In this Florida Kraft case it would be someone in the legal system selling evidence. I don't want to come off sanctimonious but that is illegal and corrupt. Just because Kraft is rich that doesn't mean that he should be treated corruptly by the legal system. In the grand scheme of the judicial system this is a miniscule and a nuisance case. In my view the authorities are acting out of proportion to the scale of the offense. It's a waste of time and resources. This case should be dropped. Don't believe in the concept of the purity of the law. Discretion and judgment are part of the fabric of the system. Just as it is in horse racing!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

45 minutes ago, JohnC said:

There is a big difference in this case with the Kardashian and Jersey Shore naughty guys and girls. In this Florida Kraft case it would be someone in the legal system selling evidence. I don't want to come off sanctimonious but that is illegal and corrupt. Just because Kraft is rich that doesn't mean that he should be treated corruptly by the legal system. In the grand scheme of the judicial system this is a miniscule and a nuisance case. In my view the authorities are acting out of proportion to the scale of the offense. It's a waste of time and resources. This case should be dropped. Don't believe in the concept of the purity of the law. Discretion and judgment are part of the fabric of the system. Just as it is in horse racing!

If you get pulled over leaving a Rub and Tug do you go back the next day?   This is stupidity  and yeah I like laughing at it.  

 

Damn you Al Gore for creating the internet and giving people the opportunity to hack peoples NUDE VIDEOS!!!!

 

56 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Actually, if you read the article, Krafts lawyers, while questioning the cop on the stand in front of the judge and the prosecutor, accused him of fabricating a reason for the traffic stop.

 

And actually:   "Prosecutors said to avoid telling the man that his traffic violation had occurred in the spa's parking lot, Kimbark was recorded telling another officer that if the man asked about its location he would "come up with something."

 

So it's hardly a difficult line of questioning for the cop. 

 

Also: "Burck in his phone interview laughed at the accusation, saying prosecutors were present during Spiro's conversation with Kimbark."If they thought it was such a terrible thing, it is interesting that they decided to raise it a week later and not right after it happened in front of the judge,"

 

It was a direct Copy Paste -  Blame ESPN 

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Two of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's high-profile defense attorneys lied during his misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution case and falsely alleged a police officer admitted to fabricating a traffic violation to stop another massage parlor customer, prosecutors asserted Tuesday.

Caption This 

 

I would have done it for $100 and kissed you after 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

Me rub you looong time