The_Dude Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/19/asia/tsai-ing-wen-china-us-interview-intl/index.html For several years I’ve grown increasingly concerned about China’s growing hostilities. China is literally turning into the greatest menace in the world. They’re a legitimate threat and very few people are paying attention. They’re weaponizing shipping lanes that are not in their territorial waters. They’re friendly with our enemies. They steal billions from us every year through various means. They’re hostility only increases with their lethality. The coward, Jimmy Carter, “Muniched” Taiwan 40 years ago in a manner that would make Neville Chamberlain blush. China is a very real threat and the BEST possibility of neautralizing the threat and avoiding a devestating war is to realign ourselves with Taiwan and put boots on soil. China is the real threat now and of the future. Edited February 21, 2019 by The_Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, The_Dude said: China is literally turning into the greatest menace in the world so china and not islam? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, /dev/null said: so china and not islam? Well, to be fair, the Chinese Muslims are THE worst of the bunch. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 50 minutes ago, Taro T said: Well, to be fair, the Chinese Muslims are THE worst of the bunch. ? It's the Mandolins I tell you, Mandolins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Back in the mid 90's, a Chinese general was quoted as saying that the plan was for China to forcibly take back Taiwan in 2020. It will be interesting to see if they think they can stand up to the US military by attacking the Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Pretty convinced that if Chucklehead is worried about it, then it's not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Taro T said: Well, to be fair, the Chinese Muslims are THE worst of the bunch. ? China has hundreds of thousands of Muslims in concentration camps https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/16/world/asia/xinjiang-china-forced-labor-camps-uighurs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 hours ago, The_Dude said: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/19/asia/tsai-ing-wen-china-us-interview-intl/index.html For several years I’ve grown o caressingly concerned about China’s growing hostilities. China is literally turning into the greatest menace in the world. They’re a legitimate threat and very few people are paying attention. They’re weaponizing shipping lanes that are not in their territorial waters. They’re friendly with our enemies. They steal billions from us every year through various means. They’re hostility only increases with their lethality. The coward, Jimmy Carter, “Muniched” Taiwan 40 years ago in a manner that would make Neville Chamberlain blush. China is a very real threat and the BEST possibility of neautralizing the threat and avoiding a devestating war is to realign ourselves with Taiwan and put boots on soil. China is the real threat now and of the future. Read up on China's new silk road. They are building infrastructure all over the Asia, the Middle East and Africa to draw all the trade to them. It's super massive. We can't build anything since the wealthy only care about tax cuts here and divide us with race BS. How's a wall with one of our biggest trade partners going to help us compete with China's expanding trade empire? https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/china-s-silk-road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Read up on China's new silk road. They are building infrastructure all over the Asia, the Middle East and Africa to draw all the trade to them. It's super massive. We can't build anything since the wealthy only care about tax cuts here and divide us with race BS. How's a wall with one of our biggest trade partners going to help us compete with China's expanding trade empire? https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/china-s-silk-road Yeah. Forget that wall. We should build a high speed rail from SF to LA. Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, snafu said: Yeah. Forget that wall. We should build a high speed rail from SF to LA. Oh, wait... The Trans-pacific partnership would be a good start. Trump is holding us back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 14 hours ago, The_Dude said: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/19/asia/tsai-ing-wen-china-us-interview-intl/index.html For several years I’ve grown o caressingly concerned about China’s growing hostilities. China is literally turning into the greatest menace in the world. They’re a legitimate threat and very few people are paying attention. They’re weaponizing shipping lanes that are not in their territorial waters. They’re friendly with our enemies. They steal billions from us every year through various means. They’re hostility only increases with their lethality. The coward, Jimmy Carter, “Muniched” Taiwan 40 years ago in a manner that would make Neville Chamberlain blush. China is a very real threat and the BEST possibility of neautralizing the threat and avoiding a devestating war is to realign ourselves with Taiwan and put boots on soil. China is the real threat now and of the future. How does one become caressingly concerned? Never mind. I don't think I want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: How does one become caressingly concerned? Never mind. I don't think I want to know. F’ing auto correct. 14 hours ago, /dev/null said: so china and not islam? Islam is only a domestic threat. China is the new Huns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Dude Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: Pretty convinced that if Chucklehead is worried about it, then it's not a problem. People mocked Churchill for years for overreacting about that Hitler guy. You seem like a Chamberlain to me. Edited February 21, 2019 by The_Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) My legitimate fear of a war with China can ONLY be avoided by calculated and constant pressure. We have to own the pacific militarily. We NEED those sneaky *****'s to rearm. We need to reaffirm our ties with Australia. We need to strengthen our ties with India. We need to maintain our posture on the Korean peninsula. TPP isn't a great economic deal for the US, but it serves us well in terms of making friends. The best way to avoid a war is NOT with appeasement. Give China nothing. We must keep our foot close to their throat. We need to give the Navy a blank check, year after year. The only way a confrontation can be avoided with China is by ensuring China never sees a viable path to victory. Remember, China does NOT have to "defeat" us. They can't. They cannot march on Washington. They cannot invade the US. But they can beat us in the Pacific if we give them the breathing room to do so. Also, as I stated that they can't invade us -- remember the most famous of classic blunders -- "never get involved in a land war in Asia." Any and all confrontations with China should be through the Navy and Air Force. No boots on the ground unless we create radioactive buffer zones, which is not recommended. Edited February 21, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: My legitimate fear of a war with China can ONLY be avoided by calculated and constant pressure. We have to own the pacific militarily. We NEED those sneaky *****'s to rearm. We need to reaffirm our ties with Australia. We need to strengthen our ties with India. We need to maintain our posture on the Korean peninsula. TPP isn't a great economic deal for the US, but it serves us well in terms of making friends. The best way to avoid a war is NOT with appeasement. Give China nothing. We must keep our foot close to their throat. We need to give the Navy a blank check, year after year. The only way a confrontation can be avoided with China is by ensuring China never sees a viable path to victory. Remember, China does NOT have to "defeat" us. They can't. They cannot march on Washington. They cannot invade the US. But they can beat us in the Pacific if we give them the breathing room to do so. Also, as I stated that they can't invade us -- remember the most famous of classic blunders -- "never get involved in a land war in Asia." Any and all confrontations with China should be through the Navy and Air Force. No boots on the ground unless we create radioactive buffer zones, which is not recommended. You are missing the point. We will be defeated with soft power, not war machines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are missing the point. We will be defeated with soft power, not war machines. Yes, I agree. We’ll be brought low by interlopers who view my country as a step mother that they despise. Savages like AOC, and the Muslims, people like you vote for. We’ll be brought low by elected socialists. I agree. Edited February 21, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Yes, I agree. We’ll be brought low by interlopers who view my country as a step mother that they despise. Savages like AOC, and the Muslims, people like you vote for. We’ll be brought low by elected socialists. I agree. No, what I mean is your people and this silly economic nationalism that leaves us poorer, more isolated and vulerable. Instead of expanding our economic reach we are arguing over building a stupid wall and protecting the profits of oil companies instead of seeking energy independence from corrupt oligarchs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, what I mean is your people and this silly economic nationalism that leaves us poorer, more isolated and vulerable. Instead of expanding our economic reach we are arguing over building a stupid wall and protecting the profits of oil companies instead of seeking energy independence from corrupt oligarchs The only thing your brand of economics will do is ensure that we all enjoy the same level of poverty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: No, what I mean is your people and this silly economic nationalism that leaves us poorer, more isolated and vulerable. Instead of expanding our economic reach we are arguing over building a stupid wall and protecting the profits of oil companies instead of seeking energy independence from corrupt oligarchs I already considered you one of the stupidest people on the earth but that statement above solidifies my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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