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Pats allegedly tried hard to trade for OBJ during the season

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Interesting, Pats won anyway, but still glad OBJ isn’t there.  Wonder if they try again this offseason?  Sounds like he was almost a Patriot but Giants got cold feet late in the process.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2821365-odell-beckham-jr-trade-rumors-patriots-aggressively-tried-to-deal-for-star-wr

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Don’t understand why teams keep trading with the pats. Almost like they want to help them keep winning 

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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Interesting, Pats won anyway, but still glad OBJ isn’t there.  Wonder if they try again this offseason?  Sounds like he was almost a Patriot but Giants got cold feet late in the process.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2821365-odell-beckham-jr-trade-rumors-patriots-aggressively-tried-to-deal-for-star-wr

 

 

....Jesus 'Dawg, that's a hard one to envision.....Belichick and distractions are not a good mix......except of course for Moss.........

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16 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....Jesus 'Dawg, that's a hard one to envision.....Belichick and distractions are not a good mix......except of course for Moss.........

 

 

Proven HC's matter.

 

McD got rid of the young vets on the Bills because he was concerned they would be skeptical of his HC'ing chops.

 

Belichick doesn't have that problem...........ever.........with any player.

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6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Proven HC's matter.

 

McD got rid of the young vets on the Bills because he was concerned they would be skeptical of his HC'ing chops.

 

Belichick doesn't have that problem...........ever.........with any player.

Josh. Gordon. 

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Completely the opposite of a Patriot Style player. Not a team guy. Even the Bills player call him a spoiled little brother.

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2 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Josh. Gordon. 

 

Do not confuse irrational ranters to who Billicheat is a saint with facts!

 

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15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Proven HC's matter.

 

McD got rid of the young vets on the Bills because he was concerned they would be skeptical of his HC'ing chops.

 

Belichick doesn't have that problem...........ever.........with any player.

 

..if, IF true versus opinion/speculation, that would be one helluva lot of egocentric waste of time and perhaps letting decent talent slide out the door....."my guys versus their guys" is a huge cop out....see Trainwrecks Ryan for reference...........

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20 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Do not confuse irrational ranters to who Billicheat is a saint with facts!

 

 

Not a Saint. Just the best HC in NFL history. 

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5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..if, IF true versus opinion/speculation, that would be one helluva lot of egocentric waste of time and perhaps letting decent talent slide out the door....."my guys versus their guys" is a huge cop out....see Trainwrecks Ryan for reference...........

 

 

I think it was insecurity more than ego...........and considering McD had never been a HC at any level it's easy to see why a guy taking over a team that was sour about the way they were coached the previous two seasons might be concerned about having to win hearts and minds in the locker room while at the same time learning how to do the job.

 

But that's life in the NFL.......you gotta' make use of the talent you have.

 

Everybody wants their guys and their systems...........but most times you gotta' build on what you have if you want to survive.

 

That's what Anthony Lynn and Sean McVay and Doug Peterson did and that's why they turned it around fast.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not a Saint. Just the best cheat in NFL history. 

Corrected.

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47 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I don't want Bell, Brown, or Beckham in the AFC east....

I want all three of them as weapons for Josh Allen.

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2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I want all three of them as weapons for Josh Allen.

 

 

..not enough in McBeane's "Excedrin budget" to EVER let THAT happen......

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Isn't it interesting that we don't want to play against the likes of Brown or OBJ?

 

Let's face it. Players like these make their teams better and the Pats run a tight ship so they get with the program. I believe McDermott is a strong leader and I believe he could handle these type of players. As much as I trust the process, I think we may need to acquire some top tier talent to compete with the big dogs.

 

Let's say the Bills added Brown or OBJ. People would believe the Bills got better and I think they may just be right.

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1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Josh. Gordon. 

 

 

Are you saying Belichick could not cure Gordon of his drug addiction??

 

Well...this changes everything...

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2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I don't want Bell, Brown, or Beckham in the AFC east....

unless they're Bills?

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10 minutes ago, nucci said:

unless they're Bills?

 

I guess I could tolerate Bell, Brown, and Beckham if they were Bills...   😉

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2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Completely the opposite of a Patriot Style player. Not a team guy. Even the Bills player call him a spoiled little brother.

Randy Moss.  The only saving grace with the Giants and the Steelers is they won't want to make a deal with the Patriots.

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1 hour ago, BillsSB2020 said:

Isn't it interesting that we don't want to play against the likes of Brown or OBJ?

 

Let's face it. Players like these make their teams better and the Pats run a tight ship so they get with the program. I believe McDermott is a strong leader and I believe he could handle these type of players. As much as I trust the process, I think we may need to acquire some top tier talent to compete with the big dogs.

 

Let's say the Bills added Brown or OBJ. People would believe the Bills got better and I think they may just be right.

Brown isnt coming here unless we trade poyer

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3 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Brown isnt coming here unless we trade poyer

I understand the drama surrounding that particular situation. Just noting that we shouldn't be opposed to acquiring a player who has a less than perfect past. The objective is to win football games. As much as I'd love to field a team of boy scouts, that's not the way the NFL works. If the Bills could acquire OBJ, I'd be ecstatic. Gotta surround him with premier talent. I think he's a tough enough kid to handle it.

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I would love to see it. 

I want to see Brady decline with Beckham throwing him under the bus. It would be perfect.

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3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Proven HC's matter.

 

McD got rid of the young vets on the Bills because he was concerned they would be skeptical of his HC'ing chops.

 

Belichick doesn't have that problem...........ever.........with any player.

Absolutely. There's something to be said about handling personalities where others can't. Some hard personalities just need a confident HC that demands their respect. See Dareus with Marrone vs Dareus in Rex's clown show: and money makes it all the more complicated.

 

It's part of the job in a completely merit based group to manage ultra talented young men that have always had preferential treatment. Managing personalities into a cohesive lockerroom. Of course some players truly are toxic but I have a feeling some of that Steelers talent would toe the line more with the better head coaches in the league. And vice versa.. they could be even worse with a pushover coach. It's not like Mike Tomlin is a scrub with these guys.

 

I want McDermott to be taking notes from how ole Tom Coughlin ran his Giants. It ain't all about scheme.

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