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40 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

Normally, you would get TOC or Busey to refute it "because...shut up," but you had too many multisyllabic words. You need to dumb it down.

 

They're not my "big words."  I'm quoting the memo directly.

 

The subject is "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children."  The first two lines of the last paragraph is "This memorandum confers no substantive right, immigration status or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights."  https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

 

I was REALLY looking forward to a DACA supporter explicitly disagreeing with the memo establishing it.

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6 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

They're not my "big words."  I'm quoting the memo directly.

 

The subject is "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children."  The first two lines of the last paragraph is "This memorandum confers no substantive right, immigration status or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights."  https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

 

I was REALLY looking forward to a DACA supporter explicitly disagreeing with the memo establishing it.

This is the best I could do in the absence of the local DACA supporters...

 

It's an eloquent speech that articulates the issues clearly and directly refutes your position that a contemporary POTUS should be able to rescind a memo of a previous President's subordinate.

 

Not only that, but there's a fine summation at the end by an early MSM/Politico operative that couches the arguments of the speaker in a manner that the general populace can understand.

 

 

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ICE, Washington Co. Sheriff’s Office clash over suspect released from jail in August

https://www.kptv.com/news/ice-washington-co-sheriff-s-office-clash-over-suspect-released/article_b76a31d4-0b36-11ea-8e3e-6bdac91a00c9.html
"Deputies said he posted bail Aug. 8. Investigators subsequently learned Maldonado-Hernandez fled to Mexico. Three people accused of helping him were arrested on charges of hindering prosecution.

On Tuesday, ICE issued a press release about the case, saying they had lodged an immigration detainer regarding Maldonado-Hernandez on July 16.

“On August 8, the jail failed to honor the detainer and released Maldonado-Hernandez back into the community he had previously victimized,” according to ICE."

This brought back memories. My friend lost her brother to an illegal in a car crash in Oregon who was also released and fled to Mexico.

 

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On 11/20/2019 at 9:03 PM, Uncle Joe said:

ICE, Washington Co. Sheriff’s Office clash over suspect released from jail in August

https://www.kptv.com/news/ice-washington-co-sheriff-s-office-clash-over-suspect-released/article_b76a31d4-0b36-11ea-8e3e-6bdac91a00c9.html
"Deputies said he posted bail Aug. 8. Investigators subsequently learned Maldonado-Hernandez fled to Mexico. Three people accused of helping him were arrested on charges of hindering prosecution.

On Tuesday, ICE issued a press release about the case, saying they had lodged an immigration detainer regarding Maldonado-Hernandez on July 16.

“On August 8, the jail failed to honor the detainer and released Maldonado-Hernandez back into the community he had previously victimized,” according to ICE."

This brought back memories. My friend lost her brother to an illegal in a car crash in Oregon who was also released and fled to Mexico.

 

 

ICE "detainers" are legally meaningless, and are actually illegal for local law enforcement to honor. Notification is fine, but what the article fails to mention is that these "detainers" are documents typed up and signed by a random ICE agent that tries to order local law enforcement to hold someone for up to 48 hours so that ICE can get off their lazy asses and get someone there to pick the person up.

 

ICE Agent Joe Blow cannot order someone held in a local jail for any amount of time. If ICE isn't there when the illegal alien is walking out the front door of the jail, that's on them.

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Peter Buttigieg, the Mayor of South Bend (a small city in Indiana) is pretending to be a “moderate” Democrat, aiming at attracting away the supporters of Joe Biden worried about his increasingly bizarre behavior.   But his body language betrayed his true radicalism and desire to pander to far left yesterday, appearing with Reverend William Barber at an event sponsored by the Poor People’s Campaign. Ryan Saavedra of the Daily Wire noticed:

 

 

“Let me ask you a couple quick rapid-fire [questions],” Barber began. “Do you think we need to also stop allowing forces to demonize ‘people who are trying to get their immigration status’ and we start lifting up all the ways they benefit this country?”

 

“Yeah, I mean the uncomfortable reality is that undocumented folks are in many ways, like Social Security, subsidizing everybody else,” Buttigieg claimed.

 

“And we need to talk about that – and shouldn’t we have some conversation whenever people say, we call people ‘illegal aliens’ and all these things that are not human, are certainly not Christian,” Barber continued. “Why can’t we just own in America that some of the people that are trying to come from Mexico here are coming back to land we stole, and the reason we took the land is because people wanted to keep their slaves?

 

Watch as Buttigieg nods in agreement:

 

Pete Buttigieg with a valiant effort to take the lead in the “woke olympics.”

Buttigieg nods along in agreement with the claim that illegal immigrants are reclaiming stolen land in US.pic.twitter.com/iLHsMIvyBw — Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) December 1, 2019

 

This position that the United States illegitimately exercises sovereignty over the western United States is popular on the radical fringe,

 

 

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

"A video taken by a Mexican citizen shows the newly replaced border fence in Mexicali being scaled by two men with a rope ladder, one of whom makes it over to the United States.

The 38-second video shows a pair of men climbing the ladder while another holds it on the Mexico side of the border. After one man successfully slides down the railing to the U.S. side and starts running toward a second structure, another begins yelling in Spanish, "Hurry, hurry, jump the fence."

A vehicle that appears to belong to U.S. Border Patrol then pulls up and officials emerge, prompting the other men to gather the ladder and slide back down the fence into Mexico.

The 16-year-old Mexican citizen who ran into the U.S. was apprehended by Border Patrol, Assistant Chief Patrol Agent Joshua Devack said in a video statement posted to Twitter.

"All too often, criminal organizations exploit juveniles in this regard," Devack said in the video, which was shot at the same location. 

U.S. immigration officials are working with Mexican authorities to locate the other two men, he said.

"In this particular incident, the border wall system worked exactly as designed," Devack said, noting detection technology and agent response."

 

Laugh all you want HAHA Gator but you just posted an article about how well the wall is working. 

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10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

"A video taken by a Mexican citizen shows the newly replaced border fence in Mexicali being scaled by two men with a rope ladder, one of whom makes it over to the United States.

The 38-second video shows a pair of men climbing the ladder while another holds it on the Mexico side of the border. After one man successfully slides down the railing to the U.S. side and starts running toward a second structure, another begins yelling in Spanish, "Hurry, hurry, jump the fence."

A vehicle that appears to belong to U.S. Border Patrol then pulls up and officials emerge, prompting the other men to gather the ladder and slide back down the fence into Mexico.

The 16-year-old Mexican citizen who ran into the U.S. was apprehended by Border Patrol, Assistant Chief Patrol Agent Joshua Devack said in a video statement posted to Twitter.

"All too often, criminal organizations exploit juveniles in this regard," Devack said in the video, which was shot at the same location. 

U.S. immigration officials are working with Mexican authorities to locate the other two men, he said.

"In this particular incident, the border wall system worked exactly as designed," Devack said, noting detection technology and agent response."

 

Laugh all you want HAHA Gator but you just posted an article about how well the wall is working. 

Its working like screen doors work on a submarine 

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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Its working like screen doors work on a submarine 

"In this particular incident, the border wall system worked exactly as designed," Devack said, noting detection technology and agent response."

 

The wall was never designed to eliminate all illegal aliens. It was designed to slow them down enough while crossing that they would be caught. It was never intended to be 100% effective because that would be too expensive. This is the wrong hill for you to die on. 

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 9:48 AM, Tiberius said:

Scapegoating immigrants, how hateful. They don't commit any more crimes than say rural Americans 

 

Not immigrants, illegal immigrants, and by nature they have all broken the law, thus the term "illegal immigrant'.  I would guess that not all rural Americans have broken a law.

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4 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

Not immigrants, illegal immigrants, and by nature they have all broken the law, thus the term "illegal immigrant'.  I would guess that not all rural Americans have broken a law.

Lol, like Trump abusing power, that doesn't bother you though 

 

And the stupid wall won't stop anything anyway

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