Aussie Joe Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Look on the bright side guys... The Bills must be planning to have an awesome OL if the depth guys are getting $4M per year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: I'll be shocked if Paradis doesn't re-sign in Denver. If said it a few times, but I don't think he is a Munchak type of lineman. Munchak likes his guys to be huge. Also, I read somewhere that Elway made him a laughable, low ball offer. I'm assuming that the story about Paradis being a selfish, crappy teammate came literally from the horse's mouth as a way to justify letting him go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: Great signing. He is better than Miller, Groy and Bodine. Relatively cheap deal and position flexibility. Bonus for those who care: he won't count in the comp draft picks formula :). The fact that he is probably better then what we had gets completely missed on folks.....want pro bowlers at every postion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He was at his best in man schemes under Bill Callahan in Washington. Sure he can play in a zone, but he's no good there. It's why Gase got rid of him and I think Gase is going to go all in on Matt Paradis. The worth of this deal.......like most.......is the guarantees. I have hopes for both Teller and Boettger.......more specifically that at least one of them will become a good starter........ but the reality is that right now Long is a proven option. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Agreed. I would plug him in as the starting right guard right now. Let him play where he is comfortable and where he played in college. Outside of Saffold, Foster, Quinton Spain and maybe AJ Cann, there is not much better on the market at guard. Long is probably similar in value to Cann. Long makes sense because he offers them options and leverage. If they can't sign Morse, then they can chase a guard and leave Long at center. He was at his best in man schemes under Bill Callahan in Washington. Sure he can play in a zone, but he's no good there. It's why Gase got rid of him and I think Gase is going to go all in on Matt Paradis. At his best he is a nice pulling guard. Very agile and fluid movement. Usually guys with those skill sets fit a zone blocking scheme better. He was introduced as a finesse sort of player. I’m sure he’ll have the same production in either scheme though. And would love Paradis btw but doubt he even hits the market. My 1A option if Paradis isn’t coming to FA is Mitch Morse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I guess I'll wait and see if they think he's a starter. Solid backup, but I'm hoping for better as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Have you seen what starting guards make? He's been a starter pretty much his whole career. We just signed him to a 3 year deal up to 5 mil a season. I don't want him to be the starter either. But as it stands now, he's the 8th highest paid player on the whole team. I can't fathom paying that for a backup Center. Especially when you see what they were paying Groy and Bodine to be their starter(s) last season. It's more than both of them combined. But for the sake of argument, let's say he is depth. Do you really see them going out and signing one of the top Centers to a big time FA deal with that contract already on the books? No way they invest that much in to one position. Edited February 12, 2019 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Ralph is cheap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I disagree.... I think he will compete for Bidine as starting Center. I don’t expect they’ll draft a Center. I could be wrong but you don’t give a 3 year deal to a depth player. I think the Bills see him as a starter and perhaps think he can regain the form he had in Washington. Say what you will, but he was regarded as solid during his time in Washington Ddepends on whether or not year 3 is garuanteed. Groy signed a two year deal, and another two year deal after McD was hired. Yeah, his second contract was only $5 million, but was fully garaunteed. So depending on the language of the contract, it may very well just end up a middle of the road deal. This doesn't mean we don't draft/acquire more bodies at Center, or Guard for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: If the bills offer the same amount of money I’d like our shot, and that’s an “IF”. He’s from a small town in Idaho and I’m not sure he’d like it in jersey as much. Maybe, that’s just me being hopeful. Interesting thought. Even we New Jerseyans don't like it in Jersey. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 "Lingering Finger Injury??" Did somebody pull too hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, teef said: On a scale of 1-10, how angry should I be? 109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: "Lingering Finger Injury??" Did somebody pull too hard? Something always lingers when the grandkids pull my finger? Edited February 12, 2019 by BuffAlone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Ralph is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He's been a starter pretty much his whole career. We just signed him to a 3 year deal up to 5 mil a season. I don't want him to be the starter either. But as it stands now, he's the 8th highest paid player on the whole team. I can't fathom paying that for a backup Center. Especially when you see what they were paying Groy and Bodine to be their starter(s) last season. It's more than both of them combined. But for the sake of argument, let's say he is depth. Do you really see them going out and signing one of the top Centers to a big time FA deal with that contract already on the books? No way they invest that much in to one position. I said he isnt depth.... I said before even seeing the numbers that he’s Groy replacement but he can start on the interior - but it very well could be at G with the versatility to backup at C. That’s my whole point - it’s a great deal for a starter and I think he will at least start at G. Edited February 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: If said it a few times, but I don't think he is a Munchak type of lineman. Munchak likes his guys to be huge. Also, I read somewhere that Elway made him a laughable, low ball offer. I'm assuming that the story about Paradis being a selfish, crappy teammate came literally from the horse's mouth as a way to justify letting him go. It's funny because Denver's mascot is a horse but also John Elway looks like a horse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Nice to see the insta-negatives on the prowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 FWIW, The reports on Paradis were resoundingly debunked: https://www.milehighreport.com/2019/2/8/18217442/teammates-former-teammates-and-insiders-respond-to-false-accusations-made-against-matt-paradis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: FYI the Bills would save 2 million by cutting Bodine and another 2 million by cutting Ducasse. I would expect Ducasse to be cut following this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Nice to see the insta-negatives on the prowl I just think expectations this off season are high.......so when you see a under the radar question ppl get nervous. I saw the same thing when we signed Lorenzo Alexander 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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