CSBill Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 18 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...was reading an article on the Top TEN FA OL......Miller was at #9........... 9. John Miller, Guard After playing only four games and being benched for Vladimir Ducasse in 2017, Miller returned to a starting role with the Buffalo Bills last season. At just 25 years old, Miller offers teams a younger option than some of the names on this list, but also an option that hasn’t yet broken an overall grade of 70.0 in a season. This past season, he was only charged with one sack in 529 pass-blocking snaps, however. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-10-interior-offensive-linemen-set-to-enter-free-agency-in-2019 Interesting that he only allowed one sack all season--no doubt Allen's scrambling ability helped all the line in that stat, but still impressive. I really like the idea of Finney, seems to have a big upside, many years left, and could be reasonably affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Interesting that he only allowed one sack all season--no doubt Allen's scrambling ability helped all the line in that stat, but still impressive. I really like the idea of Finney, seems to have a big upside, many years left, and could be reasonably affordable. It's not so impressive when you have so many weak links in the chain like the 2018 Buffalo Bills had on that line. Literally, every position looked like a liability at some point...even Dion Dawkins. https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/2018-buffalo-bills-all-22-in-review-interior-offensive-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Nihilarian said: It's not so impressive when you have so many weak links in the chain like the 2018 Buffalo Bills had on that line. Literally, every position looked like a liability at some point...even Dion Dawkins. https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/2018-buffalo-bills-all-22-in-review-interior-offensive-line It seems like you’re all over the place. You say the oline had a ton of weaknesses yet Miller only allowed one sack. Wouldn’t that make that more impressive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 8:35 PM, YoloinOhio said: Two years, $4.8 million including $500,000 signing bonus 2019 Pro-rated signing bonus: $250,000 Salary: $2 million Cap hit: $2.25 million 2020 Pro-rated signing bonus: $250,000 Salary: $2.3 million Cap hit: $2.55 million I sign him to this today as insurance. Then I try to find an upgrade when FA starts - or in the draft if that fails. He can pass block so at minimum I know he can keep Allen upright. Still I can’t help but wonder why he isn’t at LG. Seems like it’d be a much better fit for a guy who can pass block way better than he can run block. If he doesn’t sign it then I’m looking elsewhere in FA. Edited February 12, 2019 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I really was in this kids corner for a long time.....but as bad as this OL was last year and as bad as he PLAYED on this bad OL.......I would be looking to replace him. The only guys I would even keep are Teller and Dawkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 1:05 PM, ProcessTruster said: New OL coach will watch all the tape , see him in mini camp , etc. and make a judgement. OL guys are hard to come by, so be careful b4 you start shooting everyone in the offseason He was 1 of the worst O-linemen on one of the worst O-lines in the NFL: IF he CAN NOT easily be replaced, the scouting/personnel department should be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 12:41 PM, MrEpsYtown said: As far as I'm concerned the Rob Johnson scheme is to take sacks, throw interceptions and look like a douche. What, you didn't like the bandana look?? On 2/10/2019 at 7:42 AM, Coach Tuesday said: Problem seems to be mental. There's meds for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freddie's Dead Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 9:45 PM, wppete said: Let him go What happened to Miller? I let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 In 2017,he got yanked in Cincinnati (rain game) and never suited up again that year..it was odd because he wasn't playing horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Another Whaley gem. Hit the road, Jack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rico said: Another Whaley gem. Hit the road, Jack! Not specifically you, but I can’t help if I’m 5 years posters will be saying, “Another Bean Gem” sarcastically. Miller was by far not Whaley’s worst pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Look for other options first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Run blocking was the bigger problem with the Bills line. I’m not an O Line coach but it seems to me it comes down to power and technique to move the defender off the line. I have to wonder how much of that comes down to proper coaching and attention to detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 11:39 PM, Rc2catch said: I don’t see any reason why he couldn’t stick around and with some improvement contend for a starting job. All depends on his price tag right? I have my doubts they can draft/sign enough linemen to just lose everyone. The FO will judge locker room and work ethic and those will be deciding factors if they want to bring him back imo. Not just salary Improvement?, he has been in the league 4 years. I have seen enough. He does make way too many mistakes, he set the record in 2018 for blocking air. There will be no improvement from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) I think he struggled because of how fluid Daboll wants the offense to be. It can be a different blocking scheme from week to week and he seems like a guy that's more suited for an offense that doesn't switch it up too often. Edited February 21, 2019 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Not specifically you, but I can’t help if I’m 5 years posters will be saying, “Another Bean Gem” sarcastically. Miller was by far not Whaley’s worst pick. If Beane totally sh#ts the bed in an unprofessional manner like Dimwit Doug did, I will be glad to call him out on it. It wouldn’t be Another Beane Gem though, I’d come up with some new shtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Go please. He’s not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 8:23 PM, BuffaloBill said: You have to wonder if it is a coaching or scheme fit. He seems to have the physical tools. Yes he does, I don't think he has the mental capability, after 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hard to see more than nominal improvement since year 1. I think 4 years is enough. Can only point at coaching for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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