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D'haquille aka Duke Williams, Bills' newest WR better than any draft prospect

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On 2/7/2019 at 9:04 PM, LSHMEAB said:

Zay's ceiling is a number 3 WR. He simply doesn't do anything well enough to be relied upon as a primary option. Very comparable to Josh Reed.

Depend more upon the Offense you run.

He improved much last year. I wish that was how he played in year one. and was still trending up.
Might be hard for me to forgive his year one, including his off season antics : (
Being one of his biggest detractors, i have to admit i have hope , based on trending he continues to improve his route running and ability to get open.

Bills might actually want 3  #2s and one guy who can run like with a good chance he will bring it in. cough cough Foster cough cough
Zay seems to have embraced being a Pro a the Coaches say in Buffalo

  Looking forward to seeing this Williams  kid ! 

Go Bills

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On 2/7/2019 at 1:50 AM, Turk71 said:

The only way to stay up in the air longer is to jump higher. Gravity works the same on everyone. His vertical leap was only 30 inches so there are a lot of pros who will jump higher and stay in the air longer than him. For comparison there were numerous guys over 300 lbs at last year's combine who jumped higher than him including Harrison Phillips, so I don't think he will 'hanging' in the air longer than NFL cbs and safeties.

    I think he uses his body well to win contested catches and that is his biggest strength. Whether he can do that against NFL competition remains to be seen. I am not against the signing, just not expecting as much as some others and hope to be pleasantly surprised if and when he becomes a good NFL player.

Tell that to Michael Jordan.  He seemed to stay in the air longer

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6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Because they didn't tear it down.

 

How hard is this to understand?

 

They LITERALLY kept all of the older players that we were expecting the next regime to be shopping to replace over the next couple of seasons............and got rid of the players that they had current or pending free agency decisions to make on.

 

It's hard for people to remember this but McD inherited the 7th best scoring offense in the NFL and a very talented defense............this wasn't some old-decrepit group.................it was a talented group and the narrative at the time of Rex' firing was NOT the they were in cap hell........because THEY WEREN'T.    

 

Like Jauron/Levy before them............McDermott and Beane just chose to re-set and extend their own timeline without doing a tear down.

 

My contention is that McD didn't trust his ability to take control of this kind of locker room...................he was a nobody with zero prior experience as a HC at any level.............and the toughest to win over are those in their primes with free agency leverage..........so he cleared the deck of those guys(much to the 👍 of talent needy contenders).    

 

Whereas guys like Pederson and McVay and Anthony Lynn immediately embraced similar roster profiles and have had prolific starts to their HC careers.......in all cases under probably even more difficult circumstances..........McD wasn't up to it.    

 

He wanted more time.

 

Hopefully it works.   

One of your finest works
very level headed. so i of course agree.


I am going to stand my ground in regard to drafting a QB, McD was not going to make the call. Knowing this pick was so critical to his long term visions.
 

Rebuilding the Foundation before you renovate the House. is wise.

 i might suggest we old nearly hopeless jaded beaten down Bills Fans just sit back and grab a beer and watch patiently.
This is great time to watch closely what Bills do off season up till and including the Draft. and then again when OTAs and Camp get rolling.

 Big offseason for Bills. seriously. imho.

 

and isn't all about winning the Offseason for us !! : )

 Go Bills 


 

 

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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I guess? I don’t think he felt qualified to decide which QB to draft. Maybe a coach like Gase for example who is an OC/QB guy would pull the trigger. McD was a DC. 

absolutely
 and he knew that going in. 

 I would not be surprised he was advised that the following year would offer up enough QBs worthwhile to feel some comfort. Full well knowing it was a requirement to move Bills forward.
 tough spot to be in 

 waiting on a Beane must have been tough 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

One of your finest works
very level headed. so i of course agree.


I am going to stand my ground in regard to drafting a QB, McD was not going to make the call. Knowing this pick was so critical to his long term visions.
 

Rebuilding the Foundation before you renovate the House. is wise.

 i might suggest we old nearly hopeless jaded beaten down Bills Fans just sit back and grab a beer and watch patiently.
This is great time to watch closely what Bills do off season up till and including the Draft. and then again when OTAs and Camp get rolling.

 Big offseason for Bills. seriously. imho.

 

and isn't all about winning the Offseason for us !! : )

 Go Bills 

 

 

 

I completely agree with that.

 

The fundamental mistake was forcing a lame duck Doug Whaley to remain in the GM office all offseason when McD was using everyone BUT Whaley to make personnel decisions:doh:.........McD and The Pegs treated that free agency/draft period as if it was some kind of half-speed practice run......or something.............every draft could be your most important ever.........there isn't a sound explanation for what they did.    I mean.......wtf it's not like they didn't ultimately just hire McD's dear friend to be GM(which is almost certainly what the two had been planning for the previous 2-3 years when McD started coming up as a HC candidate).      Just a total head scratcher.

 

 

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On 2/6/2019 at 4:54 PM, racketmaster said:

I'm not sure he will be our number 1 wr but he will likely get a shot to play in the top 3. I have to assume that he looked around at NFL teams and decided to leave the CFL because he was going to get a legitimate chance to start with the Bills. I do like he body control and ability to catch contested passes. He clearly goes after and attacks the football. He might be a replacement for what the Bills thought they were going to get in Benjamin (a guy who is physical and will make contested catches presenting a bigger target in the red zone).

 

That said, Williams looks like he is a 4.7 speed guy. He is a thick body wr and does not appear to have a ton of speed. But that does not mean he cannot be useful. Dez Bryant could still make plays later in his career even after he had lost some speed and Dez was never known as a speed guy to begin with. I could see Williams taking over as a #2 with Robert Foster being more of the #1 threat. I would not mind this, especially if the Bills signed Humphries to play in the slot.

You cant have enough “ 2 or 3s” on the roster!  We must have a one next season tho!!!

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On 2/6/2019 at 4:47 PM, Mark80 said:

All the talent in the world.  Can he keep it together mentally though?  That is his issue.

Can he do it against elite corners/safeties as well? Those corners in the CFL play like , well, little boys!

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This guy fulfills three important functions.  First, we have a Duke again (YOU'RE THE DUKE, A NUMBAH WAHNNNNN!!), and second, he replenishes the Williams bucket, which, with the retirement of Kyle Williams, we're woefully short on.  Third, with the apostrophe'd first name, we have a potential Key & Peele All-Star.  Dude is a triple-threat, and I haven't even seen him play a down yet.

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I hope he ends up being great. Personally I’ll be surprised if he makes the team but you never know. I think people might want to pump the breaks a little on the guy. Time will tell.

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On 2/6/2019 at 5:16 PM, Bangarang said:

Drug addictions lead to bad threads and ruined lives. 

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On 2/8/2019 at 5:29 PM, GreggTX said:

Well, we don't have another Williams on the roster. We are Williamsless, so there is that.

 

The "Williams" jokes never get old.

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If we can bang on Robert Foster and Duke Williams in back to back years not to mention the WR we will be drafting this year we might as well extend Beane's contract now

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I'm not really counting on this guy for much of anything - but i'd love it if he came out and earned a spot here.

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On ‎2‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 4:00 PM, Mark80 said:

 

Now just imagine adding a straight burner / agility guy like Hollywood Brown in the draft.  That would be a well balanced top 4 going into the season IMO.

I'll take Deebo Samuels all day over Brown. Samuels is like 2 inches taller and 40lbs heavier, thick build upper and lower body, looks strong, he's quick and fast as well (4.4 guy).  His hands measured at like 10.5 inches at the Senior Bowl which is insanely big and it showed, has great hands.  vs. 5'9" 165 lbs.....  Not saying Brown sucks, just saying at that size it will be a first.

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